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re: The problem with the media unending gotcha attempts on Trump
Posted on 2/14/17 at 8:51 am to TotesMcGotes
Posted on 2/14/17 at 8:51 am to TotesMcGotes
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But this isn't unique to the media. Every piece of anti-trump news is fake news now. Calling every single news source fake news devalues actual claims of fake news (which I believe probably started out as the strategy a while back and is now the norm).
I agree
but message board posters =/= media
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 8:51 am to Y.A. Tittle
I just don't think we can be critical of the MSM without also being critical of Trump
they are feeding off each other
neither are innocent in this
they are feeding off each other
neither are innocent in this
Posted on 2/14/17 at 8:55 am to Salmon
Certainly, he isn't helping things with the incessant whining. The problem is, we actually have a real frick up with this Flynn thing and because the media has been blowing their wad over hand shakes and dresses, it's hard to take them seriously with this.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:02 am to Y.A. Tittle
Dont you guys already call any critique of Trump a melt or fake news? I think most of you are at the feet of the altar for better or for worse at this point.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:04 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Is that it's hard to know who to take seriously if something serious comes up. Or to even know if something that might look somewhat serious is even serious at all.
I agree. Of course, the "must maintain a united front, don't give them any opportunity to get after Trump" attitude only makes it worse.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:07 am to Y.A. Tittle
I had this exact convesation with my mom last night. This board know I am no Trump supporter, but god damn if the media hasn't cried wolf like a motherfricker.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:13 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Is that it's hard to know who to take seriously if something serious comes up. Or to even know if something that might look somewhat serious is even serious at all.
Does nobody understand this?
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:22 am to Y.A. Tittle
I think media has a lot more responsibility than random internet message board posters and anonymous memers, but that's just me. The media whores certainly consider themselves more credible and the gatekeepers of what is and isn't fact.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:24 am to Y.A. Tittle
Easy do not take any of it seriously
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 9:25 am
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:28 am to Y.A. Tittle
I remember saying much of this to conservatives during the Obama years and it hasn't changed since the shoe's been on the other foot.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:32 am to Y.A. Tittle
OP nailed it.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:38 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:However, if someone is willing to leak, the MSM will attempt to impact maximal damage with it. Could be a career-ender for relatively innocent personnel simply caught in a cross-fire of FAKE NEWS generated from BS anonymous leaks, which would actually whither if given appropriate scrutiny.
Is that it's hard to know who to take seriously if something serious comes up.
So very quickly staff are beginning to distrust others. Makes for a toxic environment.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:38 am to FreddieMac
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Easy do not take any of it seriously
Uhhhh, that is exactly the problem. You SHOULD take some of it seriously, but they have caused people to stop listening at all.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:39 am to Salmon
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I just don't think we can be critical of the MSM without also being critical of Trump
they are feeding off each other
neither are innocent in this
Not really. Trump is behaving badly, but it's not his job to be nice to the press. It might be a bad strategy to constantly berate them, but at the end of the day he will be judged on his performance.
On the other hand, it IS a core part of the media's job to cover news objectively. If they aren't sifting through the nonsense to bring us what is truly important, then what good are they????
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:42 am to BigJim
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but it's not his job to be nice to the press. It might be a bad strategy to constantly berate them, but at the end of the day he will be judged on his performance.
it is also not Trump's job to form this narrative that only his words or certain news outlets are true
quote:
On the other hand, it IS a core part of the media's job to cover news objectively. If they aren't sifting through the nonsense to bring us what is truly important, then what good are they????
unfortunately, the days of objective news is all but gone
objectiveness is boring, it doesn't make money
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:43 am to Salmon
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objectiveness is boring, it doesn't make money
What does that say about us and the problems in our political system?
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:45 am to Duke
it means nobody cares about the truth
they only care about what they want to believe
they only care about what they want to believe
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:47 am to Y.A. Tittle
I like scrutiny of the powers thathat be...but the media is just stupid
The media hasn't unearthed any real news in decades and literally just relayspins.
They await what they are spoonfed.
The media hasn't unearthed any real news in decades and literally just relayspins.
They await what they are spoonfed.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:48 am to Salmon
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it is also not Trump's job to form this narrative that only his words or certain news outlets are true
Ehhh, it's an elected politician's "job" to protect himself politically as much as he can. That's not a value judgment type point (I'm not arguing it's necessarily inherently good), it's just a logical expected occurrence, no matter what side of the aisle we're talking about.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:51 am to Salmon
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they only care about what they want to believe
True and then blame the media/government for the problem. The problem with the system is us. The government is a reflection of us and what the media pushes reflects what we want to see.
We built this.
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