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re: The Palestinians already have a homeland. It's called Jordan.

Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:21 pm to
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I'll give you that, especially on a "historic" level. It was always the best place in the middle East to be Druze/Christian etc for decades. Moving forward though, with Islamist sentiment growing? Probably not so much.


Particularly if we continue our trend of supporting states and groups that are hostile to a pluralistic Lebanon. But Israel's interests must be protected above all! Even those of the United States itself. It's imperative.
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:22 pm to
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Gosh that sounds a little....

It sure does...
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:24 pm to
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Gosh that sounds a little....

It sure does...


Ill bookmark this for future comments that the two of you make about other states and their leaders.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:25 pm to
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I am against the state of Israel because they have no respect for the property rights of their people or anyone who does not agree with thier racist, jewish supremacist likud party politics. They spy and sabotage even their "allies" They have their grimey hands in our legislature and all over our media and churches.

In return, the US accepts the full liability of this "Alliance" which includes terrorism directed towards Americans here and abroad. We get nothing. Israel is less helpful to our goals than the worst Arab state in the region, KSA.

That's why I despise that state.


Right on target. Whatever there once was to admire about Israel, if anything, is long gone.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:26 pm to
Even Israeli-Arabs prefer Israel.


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A recent Statnet Research Institute poll reported by the Jerusalem Post shows that 77% of Israeli Arabs prefer to live under Israeli rule than to be governed by Palestinians.


They all know what a shitshow 'Palestine' really is.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:27 pm to
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Right on target. Whatever there once was to admire about Israel, if anything, is long gone.


Guess that makes you an anti semite too!

Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78583 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:29 pm to
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But Israel's interests must be protected above all! Even those of the United States itself. It's imperative


That's a Strawman and a false narrative meant to impugn my motives and avoid debate on the larger issue. It's not helpful. You and I respect each other. Isn't the Israel Strawman paradigm that gets repeated over and over on this board something you want to rise above? For instance this week has seen a MONUMENTAL shift in Israeli positioning. Isn't that more interesting to you then saying stupid shite about Christian Fundamentalists and dual-loyalties and all the other tired old slurs? Aren't you better than that? I think you are.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58704 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:29 pm to
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Even Israeli-Arabs prefer Israel.


Even Sicilian-Americans overwhelmingly prefer living in the United States over living in Sicily. Even Cajuns overwhelmingly prefer living in Louisiana over living in Nova Scotia.

It's science.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:31 pm to
So you despise Israel and HAMAs on the same level? I must be missing your despise of HAMAs. I have never seen it. So you wouldn't oppose Israel nuking Hamas into oblivion?

Israel does not strap women and babies with suicide vests.
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78583 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:45 pm to
Did you notice the complete lack of substantive rebuttals? I mean , was there even one that you can remember off the top of your head? They don't even try to engage now. They come in the thread all blustery insult, and flee all blustery insult. But do they ever make a valid point?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:01 pm to
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So you despise Israel and HAMAs on the same level? I must be missing your despise of HAMAs. I have never seen it. So you wouldn't oppose Israel nuking Hamas into oblivion?


Strawman, we weren't talking about HAMAS. I didn't condemn the Mafia either, so fricking what?

I've killed more Arab, Afghan, and African Islamic terrorists than you and Pimp, so when the two of you have strapped up and faced that problem barrel first, let me know :winkemoji:
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:06 pm to
I read your post and all I think is - Conflict forever for the United States!

Someday historians will write that the creation of the state of Israel by the Western Powers was one of the greatest foreign policy blunders of the 20th century. What a fricking mess.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23182 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:07 pm to
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Strawman


There it is again
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:07 pm to
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There it is again


Correct. Are we tag teaming these strawmen now?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146723 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:11 pm to
Oh lort you pulled out the GI Joe card. Now you went and done it. This is why we can't have nice things or convos. Now back to you despising Israel.<----your words not mine.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20212 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:13 pm to
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Lsupimp


Gets it!

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But sadly, the Palestinians just don't have it in them to allow the Israelis to live in peace.


Exactly...the Palestinians subscribe to a belief that calls for the destruction of Israel(Jews) and which calls for them to lie about not having that goal if lying assists in making that goal happen.
Posted by OleWar
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:16 pm to
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Isn't the Israel Strawman paradigm that gets repeated over and over on this board something you want to rise above? For instance this week has seen a MONUMENTAL shift in Israeli positioning. Isn't that more interesting to you then saying stupid shite about Christian Fundamentalists and dual-loyalties and all the other tired old slurs? Aren't you better than that? I think you are.


You are the one who started this thread on an absurd and radical proposition that not even a Likud parliamentarian would broach.

F-ing ridiculous.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21121 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:17 pm to
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The Jordanians don't want that trash in their country either.


There are millions of Palestinians already in Jordan. They are essentially the same people. They only keep them separate so they can use them as leverage with the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:18 pm to
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Now back to you despising Israel.<----your words not mine.



I despise the state of Israel... so what?

Is that "off limits" to you? If it is, ask yourself why and if you can think of any states that you despise.
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 2:19 pm
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:20 pm to
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I've killed more Arab, Afghan, and African Islamic terrorists than you and Pimp, so when the two of you have strapped up and faced that problem barrel first, let me know :winkemoji:





Hey, look at me. I've killed more people than you so my opinion carries more weight than yours and I'm allowed to be a bigoted POS.
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