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re: The FDA drives up the cost of health care and kills people
Posted on 2/11/17 at 12:47 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 2/11/17 at 12:47 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Thalidomide
/thread
There have been more people killed from lack of access to drugs than from thalidomide.
/thread
BTW--I would support a government financed research facility to verify claims of drug companies BUT not to limit access to drugs.
Lakeboy will tell you we have plenty of tort remedies to keep drug marketers in line.
No modern drug company would absent FDA corruption bring a drug to market they knew to be harmful. Today the FDA legitimizes drugs that may be harmful.
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 12:54 pm
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Posted on 2/11/17 at 12:55 pm to I B Freeman
quote:Congress does that via patent law. But sure, let's throw out an entire agency because a handful of companies are price gouging.
The FDA creates the barrier to competition that allows the outsized pricing---IDIOT.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 12:58 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
But sure, let's throw out an entire agency because an entire industry is price gouging.
FIFY
Posted on 2/11/17 at 12:59 pm to I B Freeman
quote:The company in your OP is ripping off sick patients. How are consumers doing when they have to regulate on their own? Now take away the need to prove they aren't just selling a placebo.
Consumers "regulate" absent government intervention
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 2/11/17 at 1:05 pm to mmcgrath
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Now take away the need to prove they aren't just selling a placebo.
That is fraud.
It is a criminal act and we have 50 state laws about that and several federal laws.
We have a tort system that bankrupts bad operators.
Why do we want a bunch of lazy bureaucrats between us and health care choices?
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 2/11/17 at 1:06 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
The company in your OP is ripping off sick patients
And can because of the FDA and you support it.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 1:27 pm to I B Freeman
quote:So dying patients will have time to sue bad drug companies in court? So now the burden of proof is on sick people to prove that drugs don't work?
That is fraud.
It is a criminal act and we have 50 state laws about that and several federal laws.
We have a tort system that bankrupts bad operators.
Why do we want a bunch of lazy bureaucrats between us and health care choices?
Posted on 2/11/17 at 1:27 pm to I B Freeman
I'd be in favor of reducing patent lengths and FDA regulation. I personally think patent length is too long. Reduce it and we may see more efficiency in drug R&D and costs.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 1:31 pm to I B Freeman
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I don't see the population of Mexico suffering because they do not regulate prescription drugs? do you?
You're joking, right?
Posted on 2/11/17 at 1:35 pm to MoarKilometers
quote:
I don't see the population of Mexico suffering because they do not regulate prescription drugs? do you?
You're joking, right?
No. The population of Mexico has suffering no doubt but none that I see arising from the fact they do not pay a doctor for a prescription, a pharmacy for filling a prescription and a drug company protected from competition.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 1:37 pm to mmcgrath
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So dying patients will have time to sue bad drug companies in court?
Do they have standing or time to sue the FDA because life saving drugs are not available to them?
Your reach is pathetic.
Why would you buy a drug you do not trust? do you need some faceless bureaucrat to reassure you that the drugs you take are ok? do you think he does his job given the hundreds of cases of FDA approved drugs harming people?
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 2/11/17 at 1:39 pm to Jyrdis
quote:
patent lengths
I don't think the lengths are the actual problem. New compounds should have full patent protection but new uses of existing compounds really shouldn't have patent protection or FDA protection.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 1:41 pm to I B Freeman
At the end of the day McGrath supports the profit protection the FDA creates for drug companies at the expense of consumers.
I got it.
I got it.
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 2/11/17 at 1:54 pm to I B Freeman
quote:
lack of access to drugs
lack of access to -safe- drugs. That word is important.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 2:08 pm to I B Freeman
quote:Mexico has their own version of an fda.
No. The population of Mexico has suffering no doubt but none that I see arising from the fact they do not pay a doctor for a prescription, a pharmacy for filling a prescription and a drug company protected from competition.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 3:20 pm to mmcgrath
But I can walk into any Walmart down there and buy almost any non narcotic without a prescription and they certainly do not have a bureaucracy that is so large it curtails competition and reduces choices for citizens as the FDA does.
No one--not even the FDA's biggest proponent--can say that 1) the FDA through their policies does not add billions to the cost of drugs for US citizens 2) the FDA through their policies makes does not reduce access to proven drugs and possible very effective drugs for US citizens.
I know a lot of people prefer the bureaucracy over the people and you are one of them.
No one--not even the FDA's biggest proponent--can say that 1) the FDA through their policies does not add billions to the cost of drugs for US citizens 2) the FDA through their policies makes does not reduce access to proven drugs and possible very effective drugs for US citizens.
I know a lot of people prefer the bureaucracy over the people and you are one of them.
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 2/11/17 at 3:27 pm to I B Freeman
quote:Congress, again. The FDA enforces that law, but they did not make it up.
But I can walk into any Walmart down there and buy almost any non narcotic without a prescription
Why don't you just ask your legislator to allow all drugs to be made available over the counter. That should get a warm reception.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 3:29 pm to mmcgrath
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Why don't you just ask your legislator to allow all drugs to be made available over the counter. That should get a warm reception.
Why don't you just ask him to double all our taxes and send it to your friends the drug companies?
It's obvious you want to protect them at the financial expense of and the health of the US citizens.
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 2/11/17 at 3:33 pm to I B Freeman
quote:That's a false equivalency.
Why don't you just ask him to double all our taxes and send it to your friends the drug companies?
Tell me what you want changed. Do you want all drugs available without a perscription or no? Do you want morphine available in all forms and advertised as a health supplement or not?
Posted on 2/11/17 at 3:36 pm to mmcgrath
Tell me why you like the FDA. You have yet to refute a single assertion I have made.
We would be better off without the FDA--certainly no worse--was my original assertion and it still stands unchallenged in this thread.
We would be better off without the FDA--certainly no worse--was my original assertion and it still stands unchallenged in this thread.
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