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Texas makes attempt to eliminate Sanctuary Cities in-state.

Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:02 am
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:02 am
Senate Bill 4 filed for upcoming session. Top 10 priority for Texas Governor Abbott.

Texas may soon lead the nation in eliminating this cancer of lawlessness from our law officials.

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“No city in Texas should be allowed to ignore the law,” Governor Patrick stated. “We will end this practice once and for all this session.”

“By electing a Republican president and Republican majorities in Congress, the American people made it clear that solving our illegal immigration crisis must be a priority,” Senator Charles Perry said in a statement obtained by Breitbart Texas. “That starts by eliminating sanctuary cities, securing our border, and enforcing the immigration laws we currently have on the books. We cannot sit idly by and allow local policies to undercut efforts made at the federal and state level.”

The five key provisions of Perry’s SB 4 were discussed by the senator’s staff with Breitbart Texas. Those provisions are:

Municipalities are forced to comply with immigration detainers;
Municipalities cannot prohibit or discourage officers from inquiring about immigration status during a lawful stop;
State grants will be withheld if the Attorney of Texas finds an entity is in violation of law;
The immigration status must be recorded in a person’s case file; and
The bill protects witnesses and victims of crimes if they are here illegally.

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The issue may come to a head quickly in the state’s capital county, Travis, where Sheriff-elect Sally Hernandez has pledged to remove Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents from the county jail.

“I just don’t think you solve the criminal justice process by deporting them,”

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Dallas County Sheriff Lupe Valdez also pledged to disregard immigration detainers from ICE on a case-by-case basis in October, Breitbart Texas reported. This prompted Texas Governor Greg Abbott to fire off a letter to the sheriff stating that her sanctuary city-like policies would “no longer be tolerated in Texas.”

Notice anything in common between the Dallas and Austin sheriffs?
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:04 am to
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 8:52 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30588 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:05 am to
Why can't the Texas Supreme Court override the Austin sanctuary city mandate? Why does this rely on the legislature?
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12393 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:06 am to
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How can they be legally doing this?


They're just trying to bluff Trump. This is all a test of his nuts. They won't last a week without federal funding.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45784 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:09 am to
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They're just trying to bluff Trump. This is all a test of his nuts. They won't last a week without federal funding.
In this case, the state is removing funding. So if you've got loss of both state and federal funds, the citizens better be damn well committed to this line of thinking that they want to protect illegals in their community, because they are going to pay for it through some extremely high local taxes.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26642 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:22 am to
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The issue may come to a head quickly in the state’s capital county, Travis, where Sheriff-elect Sally Hernandez has pledged to remove Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents from the county jail.

“I just don’t think you solve the criminal justice process by deporting them,”


I think I see the problem here.

BTW, what in the hell does she mean by "solve the criminal justice process?" How is the process helped by ignoring the legal process of removing criminal illegals from the country?

Austin needs to move to California.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11719 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:52 am to
If DC can threaten to withhold 5% of funding for roads for not raising the drinking age, I don't see how they cannot withhold funding for allowing sanctuary cities.

I'm a huge Tenth Amendment advocate, and pretty liberal on immigration policy, but the thoughts of "sanctuary cities" where valid federal law is ignored is simply mind blowingly stupid. Immigration and nationality laws are expressly granted to the federal government in the Constitution, there is no valid argument for ignoring federal law here.
Posted by MorningWood
On the coast of North Mexico
Member since May 2009
2669 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:01 am to
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Why can't the Texas Supreme Court override the Austin sanctuary city mandate? Why does this rely on the legislature?


There is no Texas state law discussing sanctuary cities or immigration, only federal law. State judges can only rule on state laws. If this bill is approved and signed into law, I am sure a SJW will file suit against it and then Texas SC will have a chance to rule.
Posted by MorningWood
On the coast of North Mexico
Member since May 2009
2669 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:04 am to
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but the thoughts of "sanctuary cities" where valid federal law is ignored is simply mind blowingly stupid


I am against sanctuary cities also, but with this mind set you must be against all the places that have legalized marijuana.

Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11719 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:21 am to
No. The state's have police powers granted to them through the 10th Amendment, including the power to legislate health and safety issues for their residents, which covers drug usage. In Article 1 Section 8, Congress is granted the power to determine a uniform set of naturalization laws, preempting state's from determining their own immigration laws.
Posted by Jibbajabba
Louisiana
Member since May 2011
3882 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 12:58 pm to
My question is, if the federal law must be enforced by state and local authorities, do you agree that marijuana laws should also be required to be enforced?
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45784 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 12:59 pm to
Read the post directly above yours for your answer.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 1:00 pm to
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Notice anything in common between the Dallas and Austin sheriffs


yeah they are local sheriffs with no jurisdiction to enforce federal law and immigration rules
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73447 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 1:04 pm to
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yeah they are local sheriffs with no jurisdiction to enforce federal law and immigration rules
Interesting so no hold for ICE?
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3640 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 1:04 pm to
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MorningWood


Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26809 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 1:14 pm to
So no local enforcement of any federal laws?

That's bullshite. These local guys enforce federal laws all the time when it's to their benefit, such as if they can piggy back on federal violations to get a guy that has been hard to catch.

They are liars.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53019 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 1:15 pm to
hopefully some illegal will run for sheriff and steal those sheriff's jobs
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45784 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 1:17 pm to
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yeah they are local sheriffs with no jurisdiction to enforce federal law and immigration rules
As usual, you are wrong, again.

Texas Oath of Office for all public officials in Texas.

EXAMPLE:
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"I, ________________, do solemnly swear (or affirm), that I will faithfully execute the duties of the office ________________, of the City of ________________, State of Texas, and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution and Laws of the United States and of this State and the Charter and Ordinances of this city; and I furthermore solemnly swear (or affirm), that I have not directly or indirectly paid, offered, or promised to pay, contributed, nor promised to contribute any money or valuable thing, or promised any public office or employment as a reward for the giving or withholding a vote at the election at which I was elected, or if the office is one of appointment, to secure my appointment. So help me God."


This habit of talking out of your arse is disturbing. Do you EVER do any research before commenting, or do you just make assumptions for everything in life?
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 1:23 pm
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11719 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:50 pm to
No, because I think federal drug laws are an over reach, at least in terms of dictating where weed should be legal. The Feds should have control over importation of drugs, like all trade, and there is some issues with the Feds having interstate commerce power (the ruling for the California home growing pot law focused on the interstate commerce clause), but overall state drug laws should fall under state police power and 10th Amendment protection. Immigration and naturalization laws are expressly granted to Congress in the Constitution, so state's have no choice but to comply with them (see Arizona trying to make stricter immigration enforcement laws and SCOTUS finding preemption).
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