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re: Tensions Are High Between Spain and Catalonia
Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:35 am to SCLibertarian
Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:35 am to SCLibertarian
Catalonia? I bet they are pussies.
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:31 pm to SCLibertarian
The UK is the only government with the balls to allow for a secession vote.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:56 pm to Magician2
What is the Spanish government thinking? Their courts had deemed the referendum vote invalid and, even still, it was likely that the independence vote was going to be a close "no". Now you have the Spanish government initiating violence and outwardly trying to stop the vote. This is driving more people towards independence and making the EU more sympathetic to the plight of the Catalan people.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:06 pm to SCLibertarian
They (Catalonians) have been setting off bombs for years. What's new?
Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:12 pm to SCLibertarian
I spent ten day in Barcelona in June. Like most independent movements it has been brewing forever and gets demagogues from all sides. It's hard to get past all the anger to even understand how they think this actually benefits them.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 3:34 pm to Lsupimp
Underneath it all, it is all about identity politics. Catalonians are upset about central government wasting money, yet want a socialist state. Really the motivations are basically two-fold, (1) I identify a Catalonian and therefore deserve my own country or (2) get rid of the really poor people so I get all the socialist government nutter butter instead of the southerners.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 3:37 pm to Magician2
Trump sides with central authority against the independent Catalonians.
Only downside for trump is cops not rough enough.
Only downside for trump is cops not rough enough.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 3:50 pm to SCLibertarian
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This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 10/1/17 at 4:45 pm to Five0
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They (Catalonians) have been setting off bombs for years. What's new?
I think you're confusing Catalonia with the Basque separatists.
Also, things are crazy there; the cops are really getting into stopping the referendum:
Twitter video link - kind loud
Spain should be ashamed of this spectacle.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 4:52 pm to bbrownso
If Catalonia has to have their own soccer league, both Real Madrid and Barcelona are gonna go downhill
Posted on 10/1/17 at 4:53 pm to bbrownso
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Spain should be ashamed of this spectacle.
As I said the in the other topic did anyone really think Spain would let their most economically well off territory go without a fight?
Posted on 10/1/17 at 4:56 pm to chalmetteowl
La Liga has already said FC Barcelona can stay even if they split.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 5:01 pm to Burhead
Not to mention the precedent it would set for other autonomous communities within Spain. The Basque Country and Galicia would be next. A decade down the line Extremaduran separatists would want to go as well.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 5:04 pm to SCLibertarian
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Not to mention the precedent it would set for other autonomous communities within Spain. The Basque Country and Galicia would be next. A decade down the line Extremaduran separatists would want to go as well.
The idea of self-determination and independence is noble but where do we draw the line? Can we or should we let Europe fracture into dozens of micronations?
Posted on 10/1/17 at 5:07 pm to Burhead
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As I said the in the other topic did anyone really think Spain would let their most economically well off territory go without a fight?
And if the courts already said that referendum was invalid, why stoke more discord by attacking the voters?
Guess what, they sure aren't going to shut up now. The only thing Rajoy did was weaken himself politically and motivate the region even more.
As I saw on twitter, maybe the best way to convince someone to stay with you, isn't to beat the crap out of them.
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 10/1/17 at 5:29 pm to Burhead
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The idea of self-determination and independence is noble but where do we draw the line?
The EU ruling class loves these "independence" movements because it means more pro-EU countries. I find it hilarious that Scotland and Catalonia, who claim to want freedom from the U.K. and Spain respectively, seem to have no problem with immediately ceding that freedom to the bureaucratic monstrosity that is the European Union.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 5:33 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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I think people are underestimating how easily this could become a legit civil war..
I think people are overestimating the possibility of an actual civil war in a developed Western nation in 2017.
At most, it's couple of terrorist cells performing hit and run attacks on civilians. The thought of an actual civil war is laughable.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 5:33 pm to Jimbeaux
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Why do some Catalonians want to separate?
It's the new worldwide fad.Nobody wants to be connected to nor allied with anybody. Strange times.
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