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Talk About a Serious Upgrade! President Trump Knocked it Out of the Park!
Posted on 4/28/17 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 4/28/17 at 1:42 pm
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, libtards, but this man isn't going anywhere, and he's only going to grow stronger & stronger. Helluva speech!
Oh, according to the latest available information, ILLEGAL border crossings have now decreased by 73%! And that's pre-wall!
There's a new sheriff in town. Oh, what a difference it makes.
Oh, according to the latest available information, ILLEGAL border crossings have now decreased by 73%! And that's pre-wall!
There's a new sheriff in town. Oh, what a difference it makes.
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Posted on 4/28/17 at 1:47 pm to KCT
And they will think they are cute saying he didn't build the wall in 100 days...or fix the dumb idiots fricked up healthcare policies in 100 days.
A year from now, trumps approval will be near 60-65% or more.....book it
A year from now, trumps approval will be near 60-65% or more.....book it
Posted on 4/28/17 at 1:52 pm to KCT
quote:This just doesn't make sense to me. If we knew enforcement was poor, and we make it more effective, then if all else being equal, we should catch more individuals by that alone. And if it truly decreased, then whatever that decrease is, the increased enforcement will understate it.
Oh, according to the latest available information, ILLEGAL border crossings have now decreased by 73%!
Posted on 4/28/17 at 1:54 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
This just doesn't make sense to me. If we knew enforcement was poor, and we make it more effective, then if all else being equal, we should catch more individuals by that alone. And if it truly decreased, then whatever that decrease is, the increased enforcement will understate it.
You are overthinking it.
Obama was lax and didnt push for enforcement.
the illegals know this is a whole knew ball game and aren't attempting as much
Posted on 4/28/17 at 1:54 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
This just doesn't make sense to me. If we knew enforcement was poor, and we make it more effective, then if all else being equal, we should catch more individuals by that alone
Maybe their motivations now are just different. Lack of jobs, increased patrols/raids etc.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 1:59 pm to KCT
Libs and progs are a lost cause.
While they're constantly trying to make their case that President Trump is to incompetent to be President of the United States, he has played a masterful "Jedi mind trick" on the non-believers while becoming leader of this massive space rock.
While they're constantly trying to make their case that President Trump is to incompetent to be President of the United States, he has played a masterful "Jedi mind trick" on the non-believers while becoming leader of this massive space rock.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 1:59 pm to HailToTheChiz
quote:Of course, so then they shouldn't caught a smaller percentage of those crossing.
Obama was lax and didnt push for enforcement.
quote:But the incentives haven't changed yet, and I doubt many people coming from extreme poverty, who don't speak English, have any idea about the policy positions. Many of our own citizens don't even know them.
the illegals know this is a whole knew ball game and aren't attempting as much
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:00 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
This just doesn't make sense to me. If we knew enforcement was poor, and we make it more effective, then if all else being equal, we should catch more individuals by that alone. And if it truly decreased, then whatever that decrease is, the increased enforcement will understate it.
IF you had to pay a coyote a years pay to smuggle your family across the border, even with the knowledge that coyotes are awful ruthless people, you might reconsider that if you understood that coming here under the current political climate would get you turned away.
Hence the logical decrease in border crossing attempts.
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:01 pm to KCT
quote:
Oh, according to the latest available information, ILLEGAL border crossings have now decreased by 73%! And that's pre-wall!
1. Those numbers are probably fabricated.
2. If crossings are down, it would make sense. People come here for a better life. Trump must be making that more difficult for us.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:03 pm to idlewatcher
quote:Well they would be more likely in a recession if anything.
Lack of jobs,
quote:That's my point. Isn't the 73% figure derived from border crossers who are caught? So if they are increasing that enforcement, they should catch more.
increased patrols/raids etc.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:03 pm to KCT
How exactly would one go about counting the number of illegals who make it undetected into the U.S.?
And how exactly would one compare it to prior numbers of illegals who made it safely and undetected into the U.S.?
But that aside, for about three years I've been reading that the number of illegals entering the U.S. was declining. (Still not sure how they know.)
Last question. The 73% discount is compared to exactly when?
And how exactly would one compare it to prior numbers of illegals who made it safely and undetected into the U.S.?
But that aside, for about three years I've been reading that the number of illegals entering the U.S. was declining. (Still not sure how they know.)
Last question. The 73% discount is compared to exactly when?
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:05 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
This just doesn't make sense to me. If we knew enforcement was poor, and we make it more effective, then if all else being equal, we should catch more individuals by that alone. And if it truly decreased, then whatever that decrease is, the increased enforcement will understate it.
Under the Obama administration boarder patrol would make arrest and send the illegals to court, illegals would get processed and sent back out to the streets to be caught again.
That would frustrate border patrol.
Now caught illegals are being deported. The message is getting out that it's now much more difficult to cross the border. Less people are trying. Thus, less arrest.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:06 pm to HailToTheChiz
quote:
Obama was lax and didnt push for enforcement.
"As of 2015, more than 2.5 million undocumented persons had been deported by immigration authorities since President Obama took office in 2009, a total which was statistically record-setting. During the two terms of Obama’s predecessor, President George W. Bush, just over 2 million people were deported."
"In the 105 years between 1892 and 1997, the U.S. deported 2.1 million people — meaning that under presidents Bush and Obama, the number of people deported by the U.S. in the course of a century was more than doubled in just 16 years of consecutive presidencies."
https://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:07 pm to Loserman
quote:So people would be willing to risk murder, rape, human trafficking, and whatever else they are put through just to cross the border, or aren't even aware of the risks, but they draw the line at a stricter (but still humane) immigration policy, AND before the potential barrier gets put in place?
IF you had to pay a coyote a years pay to smuggle your family across the border, even with the knowledge that coyotes are awful ruthless people, you might reconsider that if you understood that coming here under the current political climate would get you turned away.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:07 pm to KCT
On a related note I watched the movie Sicario a couple days ago. Was very good but it could have been longer and allowed for some greater character and plot development. Anyone else seen it?
Funny how the female protagonist is supposed to be the "shite" and turns out to be completely weak. Not sure if she was supposed to represent US Government or what but geez what a dumb count she turned out to be.
Funny how the female protagonist is supposed to be the "shite" and turns out to be completely weak. Not sure if she was supposed to represent US Government or what but geez what a dumb count she turned out to be.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:09 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
But the incentives haven't changed yet, and I doubt many people coming from extreme poverty, who don't speak English, have any idea about the policy positions. Many of our own citizens don't even know them.
They know, how do you think they knew to increase coming before Trump took office?
Plus the ones that are here illegally are scared they are about to get deported.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:09 pm to KCT
He still refers to Elizabeth Warren as Pocahantas. 
I hope he never stops.
I hope he never stops.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:12 pm to KCT
At a lobbying group event.
This board is just a mess.
This board is just a mess.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:12 pm to GumboPot
quote:But how do we know this? What percentage was caught previously? What percentage is caught now?
Less people are trying. Thus, less arrest.
And if we are more strict, a decrease would have to offset the increase in the "catching" of the crossers.
So if we only caught 30 out every hundred people who attempted to to crossed before, and now we catch 60 out of one hundred, then even if attempts were cut in half, it would still result in the same figure.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:14 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
So people would be willing to risk murder, rape, human trafficking, and whatever else they are put through just to cross the border, or aren't even aware of the risks, but they draw the line at a stricter (but still humane) immigration policy, AND before the potential barrier gets put in place?
That is what they have been doing for years.
They had hope under administrations like Bush and Obama, that once here they could build a better life without much risk of losing that new life.
It was a gamble they were willing to take.
Now that an Administration is in power that says they will actually enforce the laws that have been on the books for over 20 years, it has greatly decreased the upside of taking that risk.
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 2:19 pm
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