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Supreme Court rules in favor of Black voters in Alabama redistricting case
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:52 am
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:52 am
AP
This will probably affect Louisiana.
quote:
Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Brett Kavanaugh joined with the court’s liberals in affirming a lower-court ruling that found a likely violation of the Voting Rights Act in an Alabama congressional map with one majority Black seat out of seven congressional districts in a state where more than one in four residents is Black.
This will probably affect Louisiana.
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:54 am to BigJim
Still depends on getting a realistic seat based on population distribution.
Getting one minority-majority seat in LA is a problem these days because NOLA is a shell of itself.
They couldn’t make a second one in the 90s without making Cleo Fields into Zorro, representing from Shreveport to Monroe to Baker to Bogalusa.
Getting one minority-majority seat in LA is a problem these days because NOLA is a shell of itself.
They couldn’t make a second one in the 90s without making Cleo Fields into Zorro, representing from Shreveport to Monroe to Baker to Bogalusa.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:55 am to BigJim
Great, more liberal D's in Congress. This country is doomed.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:56 am to BigJim
It's a fair ruling. African Americans currently only have 14% representation in the state when they are almost 27% of the population.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:58 am to BigJim
I've not followed this case.
Is this a final ruling on a specific proposed district, or simply the court saying that there is enough likelihood of success on a final trial that an injunction may issue and remain in place pending final determination?
Is this a final ruling on a specific proposed district, or simply the court saying that there is enough likelihood of success on a final trial that an injunction may issue and remain in place pending final determination?
Posted on 6/8/23 at 9:59 am to teke184
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They couldn’t make a second one in the 90s without making Cleo Fields into Zorro, representing from Shreveport to Monroe to Baker to Bogalusa.
Yep. And prior SCOTUS decisions have ruled against such gerrymandering.
It’s a problem without a solution UNLESS you stop dividing people by race.
That’s the final and obvious choice that must be made. But we’re going in the wrong direction, currently.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:00 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
quote:I'd feel better if they were better stewards of their votes.
It's a fair ruling. African Americans currently only have 14% representation in the state when they are almost 27% of the population.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:00 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
quote:
It's a fair ruling. African Americans currently only have 14% representation in the state when they are almost 27% of the population.
Can people only be represented by someone that matches their race?
What if an African American votes for a white candidate?
Is that legitimate?
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:00 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
quote:
It's a fair ruling. African Americans currently only have 14% representation in the state when they are almost 27% of the population.
And AAs in La have almost a third of the population but only 1 of 6 seats. That's a pretty good argument on its face.
However, the tricky part is drawing a new district. People don't live in neat boxes that makes drawing an extra majority-minority district easy without gerrymandering.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:00 am to BigJim
It's interesting that today's ruling is different from that last year, prior to the 2022 election
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:01 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
quote:Meh.
It's a fair ruling. African Americans currently only have 14% representation in the state when they are almost 27% of the population.
How are they distributed?
We don't have a Parliamentary system. We select members of Congress based upon geographic Districts. If a minority population is evenly-distributed throughout the State, they should not be GUARANTEED even one representative.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:01 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
quote:
It's a fair ruling. African Americans currently only have 14% representation in the state when they are almost 27% of the population.
And? Should we have racial and sex quotas for Congress? What about Asians or Indians or Native Americans? What about disabled people? It's absurd to think that only black people can be represented by a black person.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:02 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
quote:
It's a fair ruling. African Americans currently only have 14% representation in the state when they are almost 27% of the population.
Except that’s not true at all.
Quit looking at blacks and whites as different tribes, and it all becomes crystal clear.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:03 am to Jimbeaux
As usual, Thomas is on point in his dissent.
Either Section 2 of the VRA doesn't require this, or if it does, it's unconstitutional.
But, why let that get in the way?
fricking Roberts and Kavanaugh.
Either Section 2 of the VRA doesn't require this, or if it does, it's unconstitutional.
But, why let that get in the way?
fricking Roberts and Kavanaugh.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:03 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
what if an AA district votes in a white person?
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:04 am to BigJim
Which is the historical problem in Louisiana.
A self-contained NOLA district was always one minority majority district here.
Getting enough blacks to have a second district like that has always been a problem because they have been either dispersed in rural areas or heavily concentrated in certain cities but not in large enough numbers for a district.
A self-contained NOLA district was always one minority majority district here.
Getting enough blacks to have a second district like that has always been a problem because they have been either dispersed in rural areas or heavily concentrated in certain cities but not in large enough numbers for a district.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:04 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
quote:
It's a fair ruling. African Americans currently only have 14% representation in the state when they are almost 27% of the population.
Considering that requiring racial representation is unconstitutional , it's just more Supreme Court trash.
Also,
With 7 seats blacks are either over represented or under, one seat either way should fall within acceptable bounds.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:05 am to TrueTiger
quote:
what if an AA district votes in a white person?
Same thing if you divide by 0
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:05 am to BigJim
Ever notice how the “Conservative’s” on the Supreme Court constantly cross over & vote with the Liberals but the Liberals on the the Court always stay together no matter what?
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:05 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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It's a fair ruling. African Americans currently only have 14% representation in the state when they are almost 27% of the population.
Well that is racist. That means only blacks can be representative for blacks? Blacks who voted for white reps aren't represented?
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