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re: Supreme Court lets Ohio limit early voting
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:00 pm to BuckyBadger
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:00 pm to BuckyBadger
quote:There is no comparison. In your system, those vote would have been cast up to a month earlier. You asked for an example. You got it.
It is kind if sad that you would try to compare THE ONLY PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE to our current system.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:01 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Scruffy wants less voters. Many on this board are for less idiots voting. Many are for the vote being tied to prop ownership. I suggest you review that thread and then get back to me.
No you aren't. You are posting on a board that wants validity of the process. PERIOD! You couldn't care less about validity. You are in search of numbers regardless of means of attaining them. Why are you in favor of denying all Americans access to an ID?
Please stop with the strawmen.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:02 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:i asked for a valid example. You still haven't told us what was revealed.
There is no comparison. In your system, those vote would have been cast up to a month earlier. You asked for an example. You got it.
Talking about one debate, THE ONLY PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE, to the process we have now: the endless primaries and multiple debates, and the ridiculous coverage is just asinine.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:03 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:STFU commie, no one gives a frick what you think. Retard.
Ralph_Wiggum
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:04 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:Do so and stop with the strawmen.
I could post numerous articles about voter fraud convictions that have been posted before on here during voter ID threads, and you'd still deny it happens, because you're a disingenuous prick liberal. The sad part is, of all the actual convictions for voter fraud, the vast majority of voter fraud is never even investigated because "there's no evidence". Sorry to tell you, but lack of evidence does not mean lack of a crime.
Please explain the Bush Justice Departments findings.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:07 pm to BuckyBadger
quote:
I suggest you review that thread and then get back to me.
quote:You cited 2 or 3 people?
5276 Total Users Online (756 members plus 4520 lurkers)
Again, you are posting on a board that wants validity of the process. You don't.
quote:Validity is a strawman?
Please stop with the strawmen.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:09 pm to BuckyBadger
I'm all about validity of the process if we must remain in our current voting form.
However, I think it's bogus that career welfare and food stamp recipients who contribute absolutely zilch to society (and in fact take away from it), get a say in how to spend yours and my tax dollars.
I feel the same about voting on local property tax rates. I don't yet own a home/land, so why should I have a say in how much someone should pay in property tax?
I'm also not talking about tiered voting or weighted voting based on money. I'm talking about the people contributing to society getting to decide where their contributed tax dollars get allocated.
It's not that I want everyone to agree with the way I vote, but I want everyone to be educated and informed when voting...not vote based on (R) or (D), white vs black, male vs female, etc...
However, I think it's bogus that career welfare and food stamp recipients who contribute absolutely zilch to society (and in fact take away from it), get a say in how to spend yours and my tax dollars.
I feel the same about voting on local property tax rates. I don't yet own a home/land, so why should I have a say in how much someone should pay in property tax?
I'm also not talking about tiered voting or weighted voting based on money. I'm talking about the people contributing to society getting to decide where their contributed tax dollars get allocated.
It's not that I want everyone to agree with the way I vote, but I want everyone to be educated and informed when voting...not vote based on (R) or (D), white vs black, male vs female, etc...
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:09 pm to BuckyBadger
quote:You are under the impression there were not primaries and debates in 1980 prior to Oct 29th? Really?
to the process we have now: the endless primaries and multiple debates, and the ridiculous coverage is just asinine.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:10 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
strawman?
His crying "strawman" is ironically enough...a strawman argument/response
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:11 pm to NC_Tigah
I can only go by what is posted. I didn't say everyone. I didn't realize that on a board that specializes in hyperbole I need to put the exact percentage.
Strawman:
You couldn't care less about validity. You are in search of numbers regardless of means of attaining them. Why are you in favor of denying all Americans access to an ID?
Strawman:
You couldn't care less about validity. You are in search of numbers regardless of means of attaining them. Why are you in favor of denying all Americans access to an ID?
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:13 pm to BuckyBadger
quote:Aw Jeez, I don't have all night to post dozens of links. Search yourself, you lazy prick. Maybe it was Zack who posted a list of dozens of links in response to another disingenuous lib like yourself. You'll make up another excuse after you read them anyway because you're a disingenuous prick like I said.
Do so and stop with the strawmen.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:13 pm to BuckyBadger
Why are you in favor of denying all Americans access to an ID?
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:14 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Not a strawman. It's a question.
Why are you in favor of denying all Americans access to an ID?
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:21 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:How many times do I have to repeat this. There was only one presidential debate between carter and Reagan. This is basic history. Go ahead, present the dates of the other debates.
You are under the impression there were not primaries and debates in 1980 prior to Oct 29th? Really?
I'm not even going to address the fallacy of Reagan being behind. One anomalous poll. There were numerous other polls that had him up 2/3 points prior. We could compare their post convention bounces, etc. Everyone that was of age remembers Carter refusing to debate Kennedy and his indifference to debates. His demand that Anderson not be included while Reagan demanded he be included. And we all remember Reagan acceding to Carter's demands. And winning.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:23 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:the question presupposes a position. A position that is impossible to divine from any post of mine.
Not a strawman. It's a question.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:24 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:But you have time to tell us about them and my position. Lol
Aw Jeez, I don't have all night to post dozens of links. Search yourself, you lazy prick. Maybe it was Zack who posted a list of dozens of links in response to another disingenuous lib like yourself. You'll make up another excuse after you read them anyway because you're a disingenuous prick like I said.
Stop being a caricature
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:26 pm to BuckyBadger
quote:It's just a question . . . . . which you are apparently avoiding. Ducking. Dodging. Fairly obviously.
the question presupposes a position. A position that is impossible to divine from any post of mine.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:30 pm to BuckyBadger
Here's the fist one I came across. I Googled "voter fraud more votes than registered" and this came up. Please read the quotes by a black former Democrat.
quote:More registered voters than adults in 5 black counties.
Asking you to show your ID is somehow making it harder to vote?
Davis understand why this matters, at least he does now. He is quoted, “Voting the names of the dead, and the nonexistent, and the too-mentally-impaired to function, cancels out the votes of citizens who are exercising their rights — that’s suppression by any light. If you doubt it exists, I don’t; I’ve heard the peddlers of these ballots brag about it, I’ve been asked to provide the funds for it, and I am confident it has changed at least a few close local election results.”
Why did Artur Davis come around on voter fraud after he switched parties?
Simple.
He knows Democrats benefit from voter fraud and he is now a Republican.
When it comes to voter fraud and Voter ID, this is all you need to know: Republicans support Voter ID laws because is cuts down on fraud, Democrats oppose them for the same reason.
Every single illegal vote cast, costs a legitimate voter his right to vote… That is real voter fraud.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
What distresses me is the 4 idiots who voted against the decision. It's scary to think what might happen if BHO gets to nominate another justice to replace one of the 5 justices who voted for the decision.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:36 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:if it is just a question then why did you not word it as such.
It's just a question . . . . . which you are apparently avoiding. Ducking. Dodging. Fairly obviously.
Where I have suggested I'm against IDs? My point has been that if you are demanding tem to stop cheating that is dumb and expensive and won't solve anything.
I would then ask you why a picture student ID is now not good enough?
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