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re: Supreme Court & the affirmitive action vote

Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:08 pm to
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Sotomayor seems to be simply arguing that the "fix" isn't ready to be lifted.


For many, that time would never come.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:10 pm to
If they struck down affirmative action then why is Obama still in office?
Posted by Maxx99
Great state of TX
Member since Oct 2013
582 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:54 pm to
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I mean crap woman. At least PRETEND you give a crap about law.

Nope, she's all about the proportions:
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As of September 1, 2001, the federal judiciary consisting of Supreme, Circuit and District Court Judges was about 22% women. In 1992, nearly ten years ago, when I was first appointed a District Court Judge, the percentage of women in the total federal judiciary was only 13%. Now, the growth of Latino representation is somewhat less favorable. As of today we have, as I noted earlier, no Supreme Court justices, and we have only 10 out of 147 active Circuit Court judges and 30 out of 587 active district court judges. Those numbers are grossly below our proportion of the population. As recently as 1965, however, the federal bench had only three women serving and only one Latino judge. So changes are happening, although in some areas, very slowly. These figures and appointments are heartwarming. Nevertheless, much still remains to happen.

not about impartiality:
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I further accept that our experiences as women and people of color affect our decisions. The aspiration to impartiality is just that--it's an aspiration because it denies the fact that we are by our experiences making different choices than others.
And lest we forget:
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I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life.

LINK

Boy do elections have consequences.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11876 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:58 pm to
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I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life.
Well, that wasn't a racist statement at all.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:07 pm to
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I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life.
That's my favorite because of just how exceedingly illogical it is. What makes the "wise latina's" experiences more "rich" than a white dude's? She has one narrow set of experiences, he has another. And, if either has a broader set of experiences it is a direct result of choices they made in life, not their skin color.

Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:31 pm to
doesn't change anything, imo ... universities use any admissions criteria they want ... they'll just word it differently ...
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:34 pm to
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doesn't change anything, imo ... universities use any admissions criteria they want ... they'll just word it differently ...

Perhaps but they'll need to walk a much finer line.

If some enterprising white student with stellar records doesn't get in and engages in a lawsuit where discovery finds that MANY such students didn't get in while many minority students with less impressive records did, that is a suit that is gonna be tough to turn back.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:49 pm to
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It just makes my head hurt that she is 1/9 of the reviewers of the supreme law of the land.


If we're lucky, President Paul will fill at least 3 SCOTUS vacancies with Scalia, Thomas, and Ginsburg possibly retiring with 3 very young judges, preferably in their very early 40's. That happens, we won't have to worry about Sotamayor having any major impact on rulings for a long lifetime, she'll be an irrelevant afterthought.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38952 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:03 pm to
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As a result of the ruling, she said, minority enrollment will decline at Michigan's public universities, just as it has in California and elsewhere. "The numbers do not lie," she said.


God she's horrible. The poor numbers for minorities should serve as a wake up call for us to get our act together. We shouldn't be preferred for admission only based on race.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:10 pm to
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We shouldn't be preferred for admission only based on race.


AGREE!!!























Preference should only be based on penis length!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:10 pm to
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God she's horrible. The poor numbers for minorities should serve as a wake up call for us to get our act together. We shouldn't be preferred for admission only based on race.



In fact, it is arguable that AA can just as easily be used as a tool to allow for continued substandard education of minorities.

If I was a race baiter, I could say the white man is using affirmative action to keep from having to actually enact policies that don't screw the black man.

Now, do I actually think that's the case? Nope. But, it would seem to me that a bleeding heart liberal could just as well view AA that way.

Regardless, this is the net effect even if not the intent. AA allows enough black HS students to have hope to help keep the bitching down about how shitty blacks are doing in HS.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38952 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:27 pm to
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BlackHelicopterPilot


Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:31 pm to
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Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:46 pm to
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Preference should only be based on penis length!


That sounds reasonable!
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:49 pm to
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If we're lucky


If we are unlucky, President Clinton (the penis-less one) will screw us over with 3 more Sotamayors.

Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61324 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:05 pm to
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Preference should only be based on penis length!
Having a big dick is not the bed of roses a lot of guys seem to think it is. One gets tired of having girls tell you, "Hey, you're not sticking that thing in ME!"

I'd glad give up 3 or 4 inches just to be normal.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:18 pm to
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Having a big dick is not the bed of roses a lot of guys seem to think it is. One gets tired of having girls tell you, "Hey, you're not sticking that thing in ME!"


I will vouch for this.

r/bigdickproblems has been my friend for... well.... the name is self explanatory.

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I'd glad give up 3 or 4 inches just to be normal.


No.

Just no.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:19 pm to
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If we are unlucky, President Clinton (the penis-less one) will screw us over with 3 more Sotamayors.


All the more reason we need to make sure GOP power brokers don't screw us over eh...
Posted by kclsufan
Show Me
Member since Jun 2008
12092 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:50 pm to
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If we are unlucky, President Clinton (the penis-less one) will screw us over with 3 more Sotamayors.

You mean Chelsea?
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