[quote]quote:when the baby is inside the mother the mother has full control, but once it comes out, the father is responsible. That doesn't seem to be equal to me. Never thought about that... pretty profound. Even a fricking SPERM DONOR is getting sued for child support, for frick's sake.[/quote]
Well, re child support...what is the % of black births that are classified as having no supporting father? Over 70% I think. So...does that mean that 70% of black children go straight on the Government dole until 18? EIC, stamps, computers, phones, cash, etc.? After 18...Disability for ADHD? A lot hangin in the street on drugs, and shooting each other?
Now guys, really...don't you think that a lot of folk are realizing that there is a serious problem out there, and that if some 'mother'/'father'
wants to whack a single-celled entity and take responsibility for it...that responsible folk who see an existential societal threat in such a culture, AINT gonna let go on the pro-life principle? Pragmatism will rule, sooner or later.
The true value of a human life is not better than the VALUES innate in that life. If there is no God, if there is only this single life and no life-after for a wicked individual to learn from current life mistakes, repent and assume positive values...then the non-existence of that individual (abortion) is not and evil thing. More so...a societal plus, in all honesty.
Of course, Hitler believed the same. Just a matter of the criteria for determing what 'evil' is, or what values are deemed 'good'.