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Stunning Admission By Renowned Atheist; Decline of Christianity is Hurting Society
Posted on 11/7/19 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 11/7/19 at 12:51 pm
When even atheists admit Christianity is necessary for an ordered moral society, the alarm has been sounded.
Afraid we are reaping the results of a Godless culture and a lukewarm church. Thankful that in God's economy, Mercy and Grace are an option as long as there is breath.
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In a truly secular society, in which men and women live their lives beneath empty heavens and expect to be recycled rather than resurrected, there is no solid moral foundation for good and evil
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There is a very real possibility, he noted, that our modern concept of human rights, based as it is on a Judeo-Christian foundation, may very well outlive Christianity by only a few short years. Cut off from the source, our conception of human rights may shrivel and die very quickly, leaving us fumbling about in a thick and impenetrable darkness.
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People may feel free to do bad things because they feel God is no longer watching them,” he said, citing the example of security cameras as a deterrent to shoplifting. One wonders if he has heard Douglas Murray remind people that the Soviets murdered their millions in the firm belief that there was no Judge waiting for them when the killing was over.
Afraid we are reaping the results of a Godless culture and a lukewarm church. Thankful that in God's economy, Mercy and Grace are an option as long as there is breath.
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 12:53 pm to Perfect Circle
One question I have always wanted to ask a real atheist is: What keeps you in line? Most crimes go unsolved. What keeps you from murdering someone who aggravates you?
Posted on 11/7/19 at 12:54 pm to Perfect Circle
Everyone needs something to believe in, everyone needs a higher sense of being to give them a sense of self worth.
When people turn away from religion, they still need to fill that void with something. Hence, filling it with social justice, left wing politics and worshipping the almighty state/government.
I'd rather live in a society where people yield to Christianity, than yield to the state.
South Park nailed this in the Wii episode 12 years ago.
When people turn away from religion, they still need to fill that void with something. Hence, filling it with social justice, left wing politics and worshipping the almighty state/government.
I'd rather live in a society where people yield to Christianity, than yield to the state.
South Park nailed this in the Wii episode 12 years ago.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 12:54 pm to Perfect Circle
A person doesn't have to be a believer to see that Christian standards are some of the best ever.
Christian standards SHOULD be the best. These standards have been thousands of years in the making.
Christian standards SHOULD be the best. These standards have been thousands of years in the making.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 12:55 pm to CoachChappy
I'm not religious at all but have always understood the teachings of the church were necessary for an ordered society.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 12:56 pm to CoachChappy
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One question I have always wanted to ask a real atheist is: What keeps you in line? Most crimes go unsolved. What keeps you from murdering someone who aggravates you?
Are you implying you don’t murder people people because an invisible entity is watching and judging you?
Posted on 11/7/19 at 12:58 pm to BuckyCheese
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I'm not religious at all but have always understood the teachings of the church were necessary for an ordered society
Posted on 11/7/19 at 12:59 pm to Jon Ham
He isn’t invisible....
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:01 pm to CoachChappy
I have acquaintances who are atheist. When I ask them, "What is the Source of Morality?" They say something like, "We're born with it," or "Morality is innate in human nature."
Interesting that parents never have to teach children to do the wrong thing....we're born knowing that.
Interesting that parents never have to teach children to do the wrong thing....we're born knowing that.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:01 pm to Perfect Circle
You mean to tell me, we can't just suddenly declare we are completely doing away with something that has been an essential component of human existence since the beginning of civilization (for which there are some scholarly arguments that say it was actually the impetus for such civilization), and simply not miss a beat in the process?
No fricking way?
No fricking way?
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:01 pm to CoachChappy
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One question I have always wanted to ask a real atheist is: What keeps you in line? Most crimes go unsolved. What keeps you from murdering someone who aggravates you?
I don't want to live in a society where murder is a normal means of conflict resolution.
It makes for poor civilizations.
Additionally, I'm a human being capable of empathy. I don't want to be murdered so I'm quite certain others don't want to be murdered either.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:03 pm to CoachChappy
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One question I have always wanted to ask a real atheist is: What keeps you in line? Most crimes go unsolved. What keeps you from murdering someone who aggravates you?
Atheists do not need Christianity to know that things like murder and rape are bad. I want to live in a peaceful society and be safe from harm because I am a rational human being with a conscience.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:05 pm to Perfect Circle
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Morality is innate in human nature."
Guess they have never seen what happens in war zones.
People love killing other people.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:06 pm to Jon Ham
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Are you implying you don’t murder people people because an invisible entity is watching and judging you?
I think he's saying that many people would commit the crime if they thought they wouldn't suffer any consequences.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:07 pm to Perfect Circle
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:07 pm to Perfect Circle
Of course it is. The logical outflowing of atheism is that there is no objective moral standard and no inherent human value. What kind of society are you going to have when you claim a utilitarian view of existence? The kind that says the ends justify the means.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:07 pm to Perfect Circle
Is this a failing of the Christians parents and the churches? Are we failing our children by not bringing them up in the Sunday school?
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:09 pm to CoachChappy
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One question I have always wanted to ask a real atheist is: What keeps you in line? Most crimes go unsolved. What keeps you from murdering someone who aggravates you?
More agnostic than atheist, but what keeps people from murdering people who aggravate them is a conscience, a moral compass notwithstanding belief in a deity, a desire not to be imprisoned, a logical thinking brain, deductive reasoning, being a nice person, being a good person, being a rational reasonable human being.
Although I will confess to coming very close to murdering left lane hogs. Very close.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:10 pm to FooManChoo
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Of course it is. The logical outflowing of atheism is that there is no objective moral standard and no inherent human value. What kind of society are you going to have when you claim a utilitarian view of existence? The kind that says the ends justify the means.
If humans are incapable of looking within to know what is right and what is wrong, then how do humans know that what religion tells us is “right?”
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:11 pm to Redbone
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Christian standards SHOULD be the best. These standards have been thousands of years in the making.
By your logic they're the fourth best.
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