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Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Those leftist ideals require mommy gov, no?
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:22 pm to roadGator
Libertarian Party
Do some research on the libertarian spectrum. It's runs from socialist to capitalist on the x axis.
Or maintain your ignorance. Doesn't really matter to me
Do some research on the libertarian spectrum. It's runs from socialist to capitalist on the x axis.
Or maintain your ignorance. Doesn't really matter to me
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:22 pm to Machine
Hey Machine,
Did you ever find that data we talked about regarding the money we give to Mexico?
Did you ever find that data we talked about regarding the money we give to Mexico?
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:24 pm to roadGator
yeah i posted it but you said you wanted me to find something better than official government stats
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:25 pm to Machine
Doesn't matter. Left libertarians have less of a shot at affecting elections than plain ole classical libertarians. I'm happy for the former but disappointed in the latter.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:26 pm to roadGator
Left libertarians have the unfortunate task of trying to figure out how to get people to give up their money for the greater good without a central government.
Wew lad
Wew lad
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:26 pm to Tiguar
quote:
DS recently referred to himself as left libertarian.
I'm like...I dont think you know what that actually means
DS is anti conservative but does seem to have some neoliberal ideals if you can get his teeth off your ankle long enough to articulate them.
I hate how quite a few of us agree on a lot of issues but are still separated along some mythical left/right division. I think this election has exacerbated the problem. We've totally abandoned any economic arguments and the whole world revolves around these silly cultural axis
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:26 pm to Machine
You didn't read what I asked for then. It's OK.
I didn't think you had that kind of information anyway.
I didn't think you had that kind of information anyway.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:27 pm to Tiguar
quote:
Left libertarians have the unfortunate task of trying to figure out how to get people to give up their money for the greater good without a central government.
Yeah, it's a fantasy land for sure.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:27 pm to roadGator
to make this easy for you guys since it seems to much to grasp on your own, socialism and libertarian aren't opposites. socialism and capitalism are. as well as libertarian and authoritarianism.
the Libertarian Party has done a great just silencing the left side of the ideology.
hope that's helpful to anybody who actually gives a shite
the Libertarian Party has done a great just silencing the left side of the ideology.
hope that's helpful to anybody who actually gives a shite
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:30 pm to Machine
Because the left side of the ideology is somehow even less practical than libertarianism itself.
Instead of searching for one unicorn, you essentially say "frick that, I want two unicorns. And I want it to shite gold and have a chocolate horn that regrows"
Instead of searching for one unicorn, you essentially say "frick that, I want two unicorns. And I want it to shite gold and have a chocolate horn that regrows"
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:30 pm to Machine
Who said socialism and libertarianism were opposites.
We know you are a mixture of both.
I thought you might have meant Livingston Parrish when you typed LP as some sort of dig like I see here.
We know you are a mixture of both.
I thought you might have meant Livingston Parrish when you typed LP as some sort of dig like I see here.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:31 pm to Tiguar
quote:
Left libertarians have the unfortunate task of trying to figure out how to get people to give up their money for the greater good without a central government.
Wew lad
And without violence.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:31 pm to Tiguar
quote:if you're a fan of pure free market capitalism you're just as big of a unicorn hunter as i am
Instead of searching for one unicorn, you essentially say "frick that, I want two unicorns. And I want it to shite gold and have a chocolate horn that regrows"
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:31 pm to Tiguar
quote:Flippant answer: Read the shitposts on r/neoliberal for a while and you'll get the idea.
What do neoliberals ACTUALLY BELIEVE?
Is it something I can get on board with?
Real answer: Take a Friedman-type Chicago school libertarian who is okay with a central bank and has a generally utilitarian outlook. Radicalize them on price signaling such that they believe that redistribution is a distant fourth on the list of obstacles to growth behind regulation, tariffs, and cronyism. Add a modest sympathy for identity politics (think "affirmative action is fine" not "kill whitey") and a presumptive hostility to non-empirical arguments that can't be put on a graph (blood-and-soil-and-joshnorris-posts). Neoliberal.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:32 pm to Tiguar
quote:
Left libertarians have the unfortunate task of trying to figure out how to get people to give up their money for the greater good without a central government.
It's a question of practice vs philosophy. Trying to find the optimal point of least government interference possible to achieve the nebulous "greater good". It'd be easier to be a libertarian by the more traditional definition, but this damned bleeding heart of mine gets in the way.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:35 pm to Hawkeye95
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Hawkeye95
I'd estimate 80% of your posts are desperate attempts to paint those that don't think like you as stupid while trying to convince everyone that you are smart. Not uncommon on this board, but your posts stand out as having no subtlety to them.
You try hard, but the actual outcome is the reverse of the intended one. TIFWIW.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:35 pm to Machine
Oh I know, but the premise of voluntary socialism in according with a free market adds another layer of preposterous-ness.
Let's get one first, and one actually leads to less government if you do it first.
Doing the socialism part first leads to more government. That's why that side has been ostracized.
Cash rules everything around me. Get the cash out of the governments hand and it loses power
Let's get one first, and one actually leads to less government if you do it first.
Doing the socialism part first leads to more government. That's why that side has been ostracized.
Cash rules everything around me. Get the cash out of the governments hand and it loses power
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:35 pm to Machine
quote:
to make this easy for you guys since it seems to much to grasp on your own, socialism and libertarian aren't opposites. socialism and capitalism are. as well as libertarian and authoritarianism.
You don't understand your own ideology very well.
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