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re: Study: Same-Sex Parenting Harms Children

Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:00 am to
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:00 am to
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Amongst the worst? As in amongst abusive environments, exteme poverty environments, neglectful environments, etc.? I would wager back at you that those are far more harmful than any parental structure of a a family.




I would wager you on that. I would suggest that growing up in a family with "two dads" is as equally as harmful as being physically abused, for example.

Now the difference is of course that we take physical abuse much more seriously than mental abuse in this country, but we shouldn't.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:01 am to
The same assholes who talk about the horror of no black male role models are a ok with a boy raised by a couple of dykes.

To say there is no effect from being raised by a couple of defectives is just bullshite
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:01 am to
Most people don't need a study to know that all other things being equal, the best environment for children is a home with a mother and a father.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:02 am to
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To say there is no effect from being raised by a couple of defectives is just bullshite


who has argued otherwise in this thread?
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:04 am to
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Well call me insane, but I think any atmosphere that his 2 loving and caring parents who provide for the needs of the children is superior to any dysfunctional atmosphere.


great maybe you and toddy should consider adoption!

and you've not insane you're just an idiot liberal pretending to be a moderate.

have a laughing pacino

Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:09 am to
Of course it does.

Hundreds of millions of years of evolution have produced human beings to be conceived, born, and raised by a male and female pair.

SJWs biggest targets are evolution and biology at this point.

This is what happens when you put "feelings" over logic, reason, and science.
Posted by 20MuleTeam
West Hartford
Member since Sep 2012
3862 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:10 am to
Daily wire??? Hahahaha try a real source to keep your closeted homosexuality in check lol
Posted by monceaux
Houston
Member since Sep 2013
1182 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:11 am to
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Most people don't need a study to know that all other things being equal, the best environment for children is a home with a mother and a father.


I'm gay and I believe this to be true. But most children do not have 'the best environment.'

In my opinion, having 2 dads is better than foster care or living on the street. It's better than being in an abusive home.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:13 am to
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you're probably exhibit A for that claim ...


my folks are man and woman..they divorced when I was 12...they went on to have successful marriages with individuals of the opposite sex....not sure what you think you are accomplishing with your snarky, un-well thought out, inaccurate retort.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:14 am to
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quote: (1995 to 2008) lol


Lol at you.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:18 am to
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closeted homosexuality


Why because someone does not agree with homosexuality are they then referred to as homosexual themselves?...or homophobic?...I have never understood this logic. Many people do not agree with homosexuality because it is not natural and it's gross and how about the fact that most of the major religions in this world speak against it.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:18 am to
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great maybe you and toddy should consider adoption!
I'll run it by my wife, but I'm finally getting the hang of handling one child, after a year, so toddy better bring $$$$ to the table.
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and you've not insane you're just an idiot liberal pretending to be a moderate.
I may be an idiot; I'm not moderate, and I'm discovering that I may be a liberal, just of the classic type.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:21 am to
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Why because someone does not agree with homosexuality are they then referred to as homosexual themselves?...or homophobic?...I have never understood this logic. Many people do not agree with homosexuality because it is not natural and it's gross and how about the fact that most of the major religions in this world speak against it.


My thoughts on homosexuality are simply that it is a perversion and here in America we have a right to be perverted with consenting adults. Why on Earth anyone would argue against that is beyond me, and why anyone would pretend that some people are "born gay" is also beyond me.

And obviously no one who was actually born gay would be a natural parent.

It cracks me up that most of the time these "two gay parent homes" are actually two old lesbians who were married to men, had kids, got divorced and then hooked up with each other. Yeah , you were really born gay LOL



Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:29 am to
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Please cite one


Young children who live in households with one or more unrelated adults are nearly 50 times as likely to die from an inflicted injury, usually being shaken or struck, as children living with two biologic parents, report researchers from the University of Missouri-Columbia and the University of Chicago in the November 2005 issue of the journal Pediatrics.
Contrary to common perception, households with a single parent and no other adults had no increased risk of fatal injury.
In this study of young children who died from inflicted injuries, 21 percent lived in homes with an unrelated adult, compared to only one percent of controls. More than 80 percent of those households consisted of the child's mother and her boyfriend. In 74 percent of those cases, the boyfriend was the perpetrator.
"It is not single parenthood per se that puts a child at risk," said Bernard Ewigman, MD, MPH, professor and chairman of family medicine at the University of Chicago. "It is the presence in the household of unrelated adults, usually a male boyfriend, that dramatically increases the risk.

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:31 am to
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And obviously no one who was actually born gay would be a natural parent.
I don't know how you came to that conclusion. They may be less on average, but so many other factors largely unrelated to sexual preference are important to "parenting ability," that a certain sexual preference wouldn't be a necessary condition for the basic ability.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:32 am to
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Young children who live in households with one or more unrelated adults are nearly 50 times as likely to die from an inflicted injury, usually being shaken or struck, as children living with two biologic parents
This makes sense, but I think it has more to do with the factors that result in that unrelated person living in the household than the fact that an unrelated person lives in the household itself.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41724 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:42 am to
One thing I've seen a few times already in this thread is the claim that while it's accepted that having two parents, one male and one female, and both biologically related to their children, results in the best possible environment for children to grow up in, but that such an environment isn't reality for many kids today, as if we should accept the less ideal situations for the sake of pragmatism. I think that if there is a situation where better outcomes are more likely, we should be promoting that ideal state and promoting behaviors that will incentivize that state and reward those who are in that state.

If it's accepted that children raised in less ideal situations are more likely to be "messed up" in some way, why aren't we actively working to fight against those situations? I think it's because no one wants to sound homophobic by recognizing that having two mommies and two daddies is not as ideal as having one mommy and one daddy. Like the article said, what's better for the children is being ignored for the sake of the parents.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78905 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:44 am to
It's trashy Shaquita and trashy Crystal living a sketchy life, letting an even sketchier marginal person in the home. When you hear about a baby being killed/injured, that's usually what it is. A person with no emotional bond to a child with 24/7 access to said child. The same with sexual abuse. Sure Dad may be a pederast, but it's far more likely to be Mom's sketchy boyfriend of the week.

A home narrows the odds. Of course if Dad himself is an abuser, point is moot. We are way off the topic of the OP, at this point.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:46 am to
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I don't know how you came to that conclusion. They may be less on average, but so many other factors largely unrelated to sexual preference are important to "parenting ability," that a certain sexual preference wouldn't be a necessary condition for the basic ability.


What are you talking about bro? To be a natural parent it is required to have had sex with someone off the opposite sex. There is no other way.

Well, I take that back there is one exception. Women using artificial insemination. BUt that is so rare as to not discount my original statement.


Actually after rereading I think maybe you inferred that I mean "natural parent" to mean that gays couldn't naturally have the instincts to be a parent?

Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83622 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:47 am to
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If it's accepted that children raised in less ideal situations are more likely to be "messed up" in some way, why aren't we actively working to fight against those situations? I think it's because no one wants to sound homophobic by recognizing that having two mommies and two daddies is not as ideal as having one mommy and one daddy. Like the article said, what's better for the children is being ignored for the sake of the parents.


because every situation is different

the majority of the kids, even in this very flawed study, still demonstrated average behaviors

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