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re: Study: Same-Sex Parenting Harms Children

Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:33 am to
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:33 am to
Did they control for confounding factors? For instance, most kids raised by same sex couples are adoptees or foster children. It's possible that those kids already had "issues" regardless of who ended up being their parents.

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:33 am to
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Sullins' study, which used information from the nonpartisan National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health to track children raised by 20 same-sex couples (17 lesbian couples and 3 gay couples) over a period of 13 years (1995 to 2008), found that the problems with those raised in same-sex homes often began to surface in their twenties.
So these results appear to be from a sample of 20 sets of parents, which is an inexcusably low number to draw any strong conclusions.

And apparently the journal was heavily criticized for it, and had to issue a statement. Often times the criticisms are unwarranted, but in this case it's warranted.

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Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:34 am to
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but do they have anymore issues than growing up in a single parent household or as a ward of the State?


What are you comparing..or claiming? Gheys can't be single parents because their partner left and the kid can't becomes a ward of the state because....ghey????
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:35 am to
The biggest threat to a child's physical well-being is allowing a non- related male into the household. The infamous baby- Daddy replacement.
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:36 am to
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So does institutional child molestation and cover-ups.


it's funny that you bring that up first they weren't children they were adolescent boys that's very different than pedophilia, secondly the priest were the result of the church actively pursuing homosexuals for the priesthood thinking that their vow of celibacy would insulate those priest from there natural homosexual tendencies. they thought wrong.

homosexuals begin their lives as homosexuals as adolescents typically engaging in sex with a person we would consider an adult.

that's why the CDC begins compiling statistics on gay males beginning at age 11.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:37 am to
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Or how about comparing a loving, stable same sex household to a dysfunctional and/or abusive male-female household?


...oorrr..how about comparing a loving, stable traditional household to a dysfunctional and/or abusive same sex household??
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111615 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:37 am to
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The traditional family unit was destroyed a long time ago... Unfortunately, I think it is too late to do anything about it and it did not start with the "gheys" being allowed to marry...


If us heteros hadn't screwed marriage up so badly that it wasn't valued anymore, we wouldn't have gays marrying.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
11863 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:38 am to
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Catholic University of America


Nope.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
12997 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:38 am to
The intellectual bankruptcy of this board...

"Don't preach research to me because I know those scientists are faking the data to get grant funding."

A sham of an article comes around that confirms their world view...

"Yep, I knew kids raised by gays was a bad idea... after all, they did a study on it."



Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124188 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:39 am to
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The biggest threat to a child's physical well-being is allowing a non- related male into the household.
That differs from anything I've seen. Care to cite sources?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111615 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:39 am to
1+1=2 whether it fits your worldview or not.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83630 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:40 am to
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...oorrr..how about comparing a loving, stable traditional household to a dysfunctional and/or abusive same sex household??


isn't that what this study kinda did?

Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7643 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:40 am to
I feel like while this is true it's not the whole story. How much of it is contributed to it not being accepted widely in society as a whole and those children being shunned because of it.

for example if you did a study on children of interracial couples in the 60's compared to now you would get two completely different results. When you have bible thumping Christians and people telling a child their parents are sinners and going to hell and what they are doing is wrong of course it's going to have an effect.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:40 am to
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Lol



You're pretty stupid aren't you. Notice that was a declaration, not a question. Read right in the article where it states that he used data compiled by a third party. the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health . I'm so sick of stupid people.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:41 am to
An institution that is famous for it's abuse of children by it's priests says gay parents are bad. Ok. Sure.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84893 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:41 am to
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...oorrr..how about comparing a loving, stable traditional household to a dysfunctional and/or abusive same sex household??



the point







your head
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111615 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:42 am to
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When you have bible thumping Christians and people telling a child their parents are sinners and going to hell and what they are doing is wrong of course it's going to have an effect.


So people telling Christians that they're backwards and regressive has a harmful effect on the children of Christian families?
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
12997 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:42 am to
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1+1=2 whether it fits your worldview or not.


If the study were well-powered enough to make a statistically relevant comparison, my world view wouldn't matter... there would be something to legitimately parse.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:43 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111615 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:42 am to
It is too small a sample size to get excited about either way. But that's always going to be an issue in conducting a study on something that really isn't that common.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17060 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:43 am to
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The biggest threat to a child's physical well-being is allowing a non- related male into the household.


Plenty of kids are abused by their bio fathers -- even sexually.
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