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re: Student protesters win, Catholic school will NOT fire married gay teacher
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:00 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:00 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Good News! Francis I is doing great things
Could you name one thing Francis has said that Benedict didn't? Please? Most of the "big stories" have involved Francis quoting Benedict.
Also, he's not "Francis I" until there's a Francis II.
And why did Toddy avoid my post about Francis expressing his "disgust" with homosexual adoptions? LINK
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 1:07 pm
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:02 pm to CITWTT
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If his dick wasn't the only thing he posts about then I wouldn't have written that
Yet another supposedly straight male obsessed with Toddy's dick. Bizarre.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:02 pm to Jwho77
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This is the nation of the single-issue voter
Isn't that the truth. Its almost painful to watch as voters swallow the single issue pandering done by political parties and ignore the larger landscape of what they're voting into office.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:05 pm to wilfont
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Its almost painful to watch as voters swallow the single issue pandering done by political parties and ignore the larger landscape of what they're voting into office.
It is painful because of the clear-cut ignorance of the voters. They simply are too ill-informed and close-minded to think beyond the one thing that strikes their emotional chords the most.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:06 pm to Toddy
I bet that teacher is really happy.....if not even a little gay, too.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:13 pm to Rush2112
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It's pretty obvious the younger generation is more accepting of gays. So yes, it is changing. The only group that is resistant to this change is the church. And the truth, whether you like it or not, is that the younger generation is also turning away from religion because of outdated policies, gay marriage for example, among many other reasons.
Your post displays a fundamental misunderstanding of everything.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 1:14 pm to Toddy
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It's pretty obvious the younger generation is more accepting of gays. So yes, it is changing. The only group that is resistant to this change is the church. And the truth, whether you like it or not, is that the younger generation is also turning away from religion because of outdated policies, gay marriage for example, among many other reasons.
Being "accepted" by more and more people does not equate to something becoming true.
My church is filled with young, large families who love the Catholic church. I think in the next 10 - 20 years there will be a resurgence in the Church (since it is already starting it is not that hard of a prediction to make) that will correct the errors that are coming out of the bad catechism.
People are drawn to the truth and the truth is homosexual activities are inherently disordered.
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The principal blamed the Archdiocese for ordering the firing of the gay swim coach a few weeks ago. If that's the case, it would suggest the Archdiocese had some input in retaining the drama coach and giving her a raise. It should also be noted that these high school students having been staging protests outside the office of the Archdiocese...
No it does not stand to reason any more than the archdiocese calling the school now and saying wtf? about the retention of the drama teacher.
Oh my, the students have been protesting? Oh heck I am sure the arch-bishop is duly fearful and already on the phone with the Pope to ask for permission to negotiate what other tenets of the faith he can ignore out of fear of these students...
You are truly laughable.
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Do you have a direct link to the Vatican or something? If these conversations are "private", how do you know about them?
The Bishop's have commented on their meeting with His Holiness. For example, Bishop Scicluna on arriving home spoke about how the Pope was shocked and saddened that certain governments were allowing gay couples to adopt.
Or how about his appointment of Archbishop Nichols? Nichols is very vocal on teaching the churches position on gay "marriage". This Pope is above all Catholic and that means wish as you may, nothing is changing. The truth yesterday remains the truth today, tomorrow, and forever.
God Bless.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 2:56 pm to Toddy
Sounds like what should have happened did happen. Especially like how it was handled:
Now compare this to the BS you see in the Colorado case where the guy is being compelled by the force of the state to make a cake for a ceremony he believes is sinful. That's outrageous. Far better for that to be handled by protests and market forces. That's a better way to bring about more long-lasting change with broader support and less resentment and backlash.
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I don’t mean wrong in a technical sense. Eastside Catholic was probably well within its legal rights last month when it forced out Mark Zmuda, a vice principal and swim coach, for marrying a man.
I mean it’s wrong in a moral sense. That’s what those spirited students are appealing to in their protests: Not the law’s strict letter, but a sense of “passionate discernment,” as Father John Whitney of St. Joe’s in Seattle wrote in praising the students.
Whitney likened the “noisy uproar” of the students to the Apostles: “We in the broader Church should be grateful for the mess these young people bring.”
Now compare this to the BS you see in the Colorado case where the guy is being compelled by the force of the state to make a cake for a ceremony he believes is sinful. That's outrageous. Far better for that to be handled by protests and market forces. That's a better way to bring about more long-lasting change with broader support and less resentment and backlash.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 2:58 pm to Toddy
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Student protesters win, Catholic school will NOT fire married gay teacher
Sounds like they should fire the students.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:00 pm to CITWTT
quote:I've never seen Toddy mention his dick, but I've now seen you mention his dick. I deduce, therefore, that you have an unhealthy obsession with Toddy's dick and dicks in general.
his dick
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:00 pm to Toddy
Meh. As long as the school came up with the decision themselves and the government had no part whatsoever, I don't give a damn.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:08 pm to Toddy
IDGAF.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:08 pm to Toddy
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Could this foreshadow more profound changes coming from the Church?
No.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:13 pm to Toddy
A gay swim coach is a bad idea. A gay teacher does not need to be around a locker room.
And before you squawk, I'll say that homosexuality by itself is a mild and harmless form of mental illness.
I wouldn't have a problem if he taught science or math or history or literature. He just needs to stay away from the kids locker room and if he has a brain he will make sure he always has another adult with him whenever he needs to address an individual student outside of class.
And before you squawk, I'll say that homosexuality by itself is a mild and harmless form of mental illness.
I wouldn't have a problem if he taught science or math or history or literature. He just needs to stay away from the kids locker room and if he has a brain he will make sure he always has another adult with him whenever he needs to address an individual student outside of class.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:17 pm to Toddy
Why must homosexual teachers attempt to soil the beliefs of a religious group and impose their own views on the institution in the first place? The teacher might not be walking the halls waiving a rainbow flag and proclaiming the joys of homosexuality, but he inherently is imposing his homosexual beliefs and tendencies through the lifestyle he chooses to live openly to the view of the students and school community.
This is where the majority of those who are frustrated with homosexuality become annoyed. If you are gay, congrats; as long as you keep it to yourself and out of others' religious beliefs that's fine. It is not fine to seek out a religious institution, who's views are 100% contrary to your own, and then attempt to manipulate that institutions' views a la gay marriage and lifestyle of a teacher or in other cases, demanding religious institutions provide contraception to their employees.
This is where the majority of those who are frustrated with homosexuality become annoyed. If you are gay, congrats; as long as you keep it to yourself and out of others' religious beliefs that's fine. It is not fine to seek out a religious institution, who's views are 100% contrary to your own, and then attempt to manipulate that institutions' views a la gay marriage and lifestyle of a teacher or in other cases, demanding religious institutions provide contraception to their employees.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:22 pm to detective barnaby
quote:^^^Textbook narcissism. Being married imposes nothing on no one.
Why must homosexual teachers attempt to soil the beliefs of a religious group and impose their own views on the institution in the first place? The teacher might not be walking the halls waiving a rainbow flag and proclaiming the joys of homosexuality, but he inherently is imposing his homosexual beliefs and tendencies through the lifestyle he chooses to live openly to the view of the students and school community.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:26 pm to ballscaster
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:51 pm to Jbird
$17 trillion and ticking.....
Posted on 1/13/14 at 6:41 pm to ballscaster
Bullshite. Using your flawed logic, we should also allow drug dealers and murderers to be teachers at religious institutions so long as they aren't murdering or dealing to anyone in the school community, because they aren't imposing directly on the community right?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 6:48 pm to detective barnaby
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drug dealers and murderers
quote:Do some more thinking.
they aren't imposing directly on the community
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