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re: ST. George WINS Incorporation is a reality!

Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26324 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:14 pm to
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why don't we say F it and all be ruled under the United States Federal Govt? What could go wrong?

"We SHOULD! Everyone being ruled by one behemoth centralized government is the epitome of conservative principles"


--CreoleTigerEsq.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52996 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:14 pm to
I heard the “st George” they named it after is St. George Wallace, the patron saint of segregation
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
553 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:18 pm to
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Using your logic, why don't we say F it and all be ruled under the United States Federal Govt?


My logic is against the creation of more government. "More" government and "big" government are not the same.

Seems that it's you that failed the test on logic.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36038 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:19 pm to
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Having prior experience in municipal government budgets, I know EXACTLY what the end result of any new incorporation effort will be. When the new city council proposes a new millage because it suddenly realizes that it doesn't have enough funding to meet its recurring budget obligations, I want everyone within this thread to come back and tell me that I am wrong.


Do you live here? Do you know how we pay for libraries, sewer, parks, fire dept., water, Mosquitto control, EMS, police, Sheriff, and all of our other parish services?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68620 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:20 pm to
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It is not "more" government. It is "different government".



This guy would have us sell back the Louisiana purchase because it created more states and more government.

Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
3794 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:24 pm to
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weird to see folks one day talk about cutting spending and smaller government, and then the very next day championing more government

This is about better government.
No taxation without representation.
I think SWB's chickens have come home to roost.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26324 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:27 pm to
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My logic is against the creation of more government. "More" government and "big" government are not the same.


So I guess no more incorporations anywhere.

Where does that line get drawn? When should have have stopped creating local governments? 1789? 1900? 2000? Somewhere in between?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26324 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:28 pm to
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This guy would have us sell back the Louisiana purchase because it created more states and more government.

Everything west of the Appalachian Mountains should be one big state ruled from Washington. The creation of more governments is un-American.
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1447 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:35 pm to
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Having prior experience in municipal government budgets


Well here's the friggin problem right there....
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27517 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:40 pm to
Just remember, now the voter is on the hook for the failures as well and for any new taxes that may be levied in order to fund the new city. Can't blame the people in North BR going forward.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57221 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:41 pm to
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Uptown New Orleans come on down!


What does this have to do with St. George?
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6772 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:45 pm to
You really are ate up with it. Deal with it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36038 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 5:03 pm to
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Just remember, now the voter is on the hook for the failures


Nothing new

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new taxes that may be levied in order to fund the new city


We vote on taxes and I trust my new community much better than my old community to do the right things.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56501 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 5:15 pm to
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So I guess no more incorporations anywhere.



True conservatives are required to live in unincorporated areas and bend over and take it while the neighboring incorporated area steals your taxes.
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
577 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 5:17 pm to
Roy Orbison provides a great song for this moment:

IT"S OVER!

And Roy just keeps on giving us appropriate tunes...

Crying

Godspeed to St George!

Now make it look good.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3357 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 5:23 pm to
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Literally everyone who voted in favor of incorporation. Newly incorporated city = one more municipality, one more school board, one more city court, one more city council, one more mayor, more legacy costs for teachers ... all of that is more government to be funded with more taxes.


What you said would make sense if the unincorporated area wasn’t already governed by an incompetent and unviable city-parish government.

If Prairieville was trying to incorporate I would be opposed.

If Prairieville was governed by the city of Baton Rouge, I would absolutely support incorporation.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
4599 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 5:29 pm to
Does anything change for those of us who are on the outskirts of St. George but not in city limits?
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6404 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 5:31 pm to
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Does anything change for those of us who are on the outskirts of St. George but not in city limits?


We can petition to annex into St. George
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
8973 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 5:43 pm to
So what is the expected timeframe of when the Governor must appoint the first mayor, council, and police chief.

First order of business the next parish council meeting should be to break up the City/Parish government. Baton Rouge needs to learn to thrive on its own vs. the backs of a certain section of the Parish.

Co-worker at office is now worried his taxes will increase big time because Baton Rouge can't live off North Baton Rouge. Poor One Hundred Oaks area too. They will have to carry the city now.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:00 pm to
They are probably going to have to litigate the boundaries first so this may be a long process.

And yes, Baton Rouge will lose tax revenue, but they also lose a lot of expenses.
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