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Posted on 3/18/17 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 5:31 pm to
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If you're 40 and not conservative you don't have a brain.



Conservatism is a side effect of being an adult.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33932 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 5:32 pm to
Actually Hillary Clinton won the 30-44 year old age group by 8 percentage points.



But I get your point about the youth vote. People especially whites usually become more conservative as they grow older.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 5:38 pm to
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Actually Hillary Clinton won the 30-44 year old age group by 8 percentage points.

I know this.

I was comparing the same group of people.

IE, a person in that 18-30 bracket when Bill won in 1992 is now at least 48 years old.

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But I get your point about the youth vote. People especially whites usually become more conservative as they grow older.
Interesting point. I would be interested to see the pattern by race.

But, frankly, I wouldn't waste my time examining the black vote. You can predict the black vote by talking to any random group of 5 blacks. They're like a hive mind when it comes to voting.

But, the other groups would be of interest.
This post was edited on 3/18/17 at 5:39 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123845 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 5:39 pm to
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In 1992, Bill Clinton won the 18-24 year old vote by 11 points.

In 2016, those voters were age 42-48. How did Hillary do with that group of people? Hell, Obama lost that group in 2012!
All of which is explained buy a great French political story.

G. B. Clemenceau was a French politician, physician, and journalist who served as Prime Minister of France during the First World War
One day a wild-eyed subordinate burst into a private a meeting Clemenceau was holding and informed him, “Your son has just joined the Socialist Party.” Expecting Clemenceau to be mortified at both the outburst and the news, attendees were aghast. Clemenceau smiled and coolly responded, “Sir, my son is 22 years old. If he had not become a Socialist at 22, I would have disowned him. If he is still a Socialist at 30, I will do it then.”

Later Churchill, made a similar observation, "He who is not liberal in youth has no heart. He who remains liberal with age has no brain."

Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5530 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 5:40 pm to
Liberals that do not recognize that people's political views change over time through life experience are idiots.
Posted by kcon70
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2016
2695 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 5:40 pm to
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Democrats see the bigger picture instead of seeking immediate gratification.


That sort of thinking is known as delusional.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15368 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 5:41 pm to
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Conservatism is a side effect of being an adult.
My kids will occasionally say now they just don't feel like being an adult today.

Which is why we're at Disney today so we don't have to be.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32093 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 8:47 pm to
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Democrats see the bigger picture instead of seeking immediate gratification.




It was your hero, Obama, that ended up doing more by accident to get republicans elected than any politician in decades.
Posted by dmjones
Acworth, GA
Member since Mar 2016
2303 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:00 pm to
Having grown up in a Baptist house, I've become far more liberal than I was when I first gained the right to vote. I don't feel as oppressed or as likely to be chastised for my political choice. I'm sure that I'm not the only one.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50023 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:01 pm to
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Conservatism is a side effect of being an adult.


I was ultra conservative until I graduated from college and became an adult.

Coincidentally, I'm educated and religious and am labeled a liberal.
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
4458 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:13 pm to
Yeah, but your a woman. Women are more liberal in nature.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50023 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:16 pm to
Maybe. I was a woman when I was 18 to 23 also though. I was more sheltered then. When I began interacting more with people who weren't like me in terms of race, class and education, my views changed.
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
4458 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:23 pm to
Yeah, but as a group you are more emotional thinkers than men. You are more nurturing , caring, loving. Men as a group aren't. We are more analytical when it comes to dealing with others. We only get worse as we interact with more people i.e. Get older.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50023 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:35 pm to
Right men are more analytical as evidenced by you grouping every person into stereotypes. Lots of critical thinking happening here.
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
4458 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:41 pm to
Well, at least I didn't tell you that you'd understand when you got a little older.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34982 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:42 pm to
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Right men are more analytical as evidenced by you grouping every person into stereotypes. Lots of critical thinking happening here.


And you proved his point.... Emotional.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50023 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:45 pm to
I made an objective observation and you are calling me emotional. Sounds like you are projecting.

I've noticed that regularly here. Men call women emotion so they don't have to actually defend their meritless points. I understand. It's easier to call someone a name than defend a point that doesn't really make sense in context.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34982 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:47 pm to
Woah now sugar tits. Emotions are flying.

I made an observation as well. And you are getting more riled up by the post

Relax.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50023 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:49 pm to
Sure. I'm super riled up.
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
4458 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:51 pm to
Are you debating that women, as a group, don't think more emotionally than men? Seriously? I didn't even think that was up for debate.

LINK

I have no idea who that website represents, it was just the first google search, but there are page after page of reasons studies on women being emotional thinkers, as a group.

And I find it wonderful that women as a group are. My daughter is a wonderful young lady that I respect and admire, but I know that the way she is wired, she is apt to be more emotional than her twin brother. Doesn't mean I don't value her opinion or short change her views though.
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