re: Special Counsel Mueller Impanels Washington Grand Jury in Russia Probe

You are exactly right. Trump is fricked. He will be indicted for something...Kushner and Bannon likely get indicted too.

Pence will be the incumbent candidate against a Harris/Castro challenge...maybe Harris/ Booker.

Who knows how that will go down.

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"A grand jury must serve until the court discharges it" -FRCP 6(g)

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(g) Discharging the Grand Jury. A grand jury must serve until the court discharges it, but it may serve more than 18 months only if the court, having determined that an extension is in the public interest, extends the grand jury's service. An extension may be granted for no more than 6 months, except as otherwise provided by statute.

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Also, considering I would imagine that the location of the grand jury can be challenged under (b)(1).

Of course, there's also this:

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(2) Secrecy.

(A) No obligation of secrecy may be imposed on any person except in accordance with Rule 6(e)(2)(B).

(B) Unless these rules provide otherwise, the following persons must not disclose a matter occurring before the grand jury:

(i) a grand juror;

(ii) an interpreter;

(iii) a court reporter;

(iv) an operator of a recording device;

(v) a person who transcribes recorded testimony;

(vi) an attorney for the government; or

(vii) a person to whom disclosure is made under Rule 6(e)(3)(A)(ii) or (iii).

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Considering these are the only people that are allowed in the room when anything is going on (except for a witness, they are allowed to discuss their testimony unless otherwise ordered), there better not be any fricking leaks.

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The president cannot "obstruct justice." It's literally impossible. He has the power of the pardon -- a pardon that is not judicially reviewable. All he has to do is call Mueller and say "I am pardoning everyone of my associates. Have fun with the investigation" and there's not shite Mueller can do about it.

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Whether the sitting president can be tried in a criminal court while president is an open debate amongst legal professionals, since there is not a whole lot of precedent for this. Though I am sure Trumpers will prefer to only look at the arguments of one side, which aren't weak, and the conclusions do lean heavily in that direction, but the president is not a dictator and our constitution made this very clear with how they organized the checks and balances to not be beholden strictly to criminal law.

Obstruction was part of the basis of the impeachment charges that were brought up(or planned to be brought up) against both Nixon and Clinton.

But ultimately that check and balance is only as good as the people in power of it. Trump could theoretically find a way to fire Mueller, preemptively pardon people, then tweet about how he did it specifically to end the investigation that was looking into him, but if congress doesn't act, there is a good chance Trump would not face any formal repercussions.

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indicted for something

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What?

Meddling? Election related crimes?

Trump and his staffers would be wise to dispense with the lying at this point. The constant lies, omissions, and revisions to previous statements and documents will matter now.

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What?

Meddling? Election related crimes?

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Violating all sections of the "It was Hillary's turn and furthermore, we didn't think this clown would win" law.

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SSpaniel

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Exactly

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Obstruction of justice was one of the articles of impeachment against Nixon.

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pardons do not extend to impeachment proceedings. Nixon also impeded a congressional hearing. Trump is accused of obstructing an FBI investigation. FBI investigations are specifically not a proceeding under the obstruction statutes.

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