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So, they took a major step in getting rid of overtime pay

Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted by InTheDetails
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:18 pm
Looks like overtime pay is on the chopping block, all under the guise of flexibility for employees. Under this bill, which appears to have full Republican support and the support of the Trump administration, employers would be allowed to stop paying overtime, with a system developed for accumulative hours resulting in more PTO (paid time off) days instead of time-and-a-half.

I'm freaking done, man. Companies and profits over people time and time again. We already have the longest work weeks and stagnant wages, but that's not good enough. Nope, they want our sacrifice pay, too. Such garbage. This is indefensible to me.

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This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:18 pm to
Why do you hate freedom?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

they took a major step in getting rid of overtime by InTheDetails
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:20 pm to
As long as they liquidate the remaining PTO when you leave I don't see the issue here
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11812 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:20 pm to
public sector already has this why no private sector?

EDIT: I know of numerous state employees that have months of occurred PTO from extra hours that they can "retire" over a year or two early and still get paid because of the PTO days
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 3:23 pm
Posted by InTheDetails
Real, USA
Member since Jul 2014
774 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:21 pm to
I'm confused
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:21 pm to
the shite that Obama did re: OT pay was way worse than this. Caused all kinds of compliance issues and Obama suspended implementation of it after companies spent alot of resources on compliance.

Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:21 pm to
We don't have the longest work week.

A quick google search gave me this: 15 Countries With Longer Work Weeks Than The US

But yeah, the GOP is all about companies over individuals. And democrats are all about helping individuals to the point that we have to raise the debt ceiling again in a few months.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:23 pm to
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Looks like overtime pay is on the chopping block, all under the guise of flexibility for employees.


No, you're wrong. It's an option for the workers. The employers still have to offer OT. The workers can choose to forgo OT and take comp time instead IF THEY SO CHOOSE. Their employers cannot deny them OT.

This is in response to a regulation passed during the Obama Administration which forbid employers from offering comp time and mandating that they had to offer OT. As someone who's work used to offer the choice, I often took comp time. I worked 60-70 hours per week, and found that when I took more than 50, the payroll taxes ate me alive. By only taking 10 hours of OT every week, and stockpiling the rest, I could take a month off at a time in between projects if I wanted to. I took an epic road trip to Chicago with my wife and saw my cousins and friends up there whom I hadn't seen in years.

When I left the company, I had a couple weeks of Comp Time saved up, so it was paid to me in a lump sum, which really helped to tide me over until my next job started.

This is a good law because it gives a CHOICE for the EMPLOYEE.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:23 pm to
I worked for a company that called it a couple of different things:
Comp Time
POAD (Paid or another day)

We loved it. gave us flexibility. If i needed extra time off I could work a little extra and take off. If i need a little extra cash, I asked to be paid. It was great!
A LOT of the time, if you worked 4 hours of Over Time and asked to be paid in Comp Time they would give us time and a half, just like they would have paid you if you had asked to be paid.
4 hours of work = 6 hours off.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:24 pm to
We know.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

the shite that Obama did re: OT pay was way worse than this. Caused all kinds of compliance issues and Obama suspended implementation of it after companies spent alot of resources on compliance.


yup, that was some absolute horse shite. thank goodness it never came about.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:24 pm to
Good, I ain't working over time anyway. I'd rather have the time off if I had to choose, but like I said F that BS, I clock my 40's and my arse is at the house chillin.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23312 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:26 pm to
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The overtime bill would give employees a choice between taking time off or being paid time-and-a-half when they work more than 40 hours in a week.


quote:

The GOP legislation would allow private-sector companies to offer workers a choice between "comp time" and overtime pay. Workers could save as much as 160 hours - or about one month's worth - of paid time off. At the end of the year, their companies would pay them for any time off they don't use. Employees would not be forced to take time off, if they prefer to cash in a bigger paycheck, Roby said.


Quit drinking the fake news CNN koolaid
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

I worked 60-70 hours per week, and found that when I took more than 50, the payroll taxes ate me alive. By only taking 10 hours of OT every week, and stockpiling the rest, I could take a month off at a time in between projects if I wanted to.


Same for me, too. My wife and I ended taking my extra time and spent 3 1/2 weeks in Italy. It was great!
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:27 pm to
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I'm freaking done, man.

quote:

We already have the longest work weeks


quote:

employers would be allowed to stop paying overtime, with a system developed for accumulative hours resulting in more PTO (paid time off) days


Sounds like they're fixing your gripe.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:27 pm to
NO THE REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO TAKE US BACK TO INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION ERA LABOR STANDARDS
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

under the guise of flexibility for employees.


It benefits me as an employee.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7635 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:28 pm to
I already get 25 pto a year, ill take a few more, please.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25122 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:30 pm to
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NO THE REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO TAKE US BACK TO INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION ERA LABOR STANDARDS



Upton Sinclair's The Jungle allows one to experience the horror of the PTO plans of yesteryear.
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