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re: So Mitch Landrieu Warns Of Harvey Flooding Because City's Pumps Aren't Ready
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:55 pm to Godfather1
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:55 pm to Godfather1
Well as far as I'm concerned, you aren't involved in the process and have no idea what the facts are. So that's a blind accusation.
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:08 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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ake refuge on the empty pedestals.
High and Dry
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:10 pm to AggieDub14
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Well as far as I'm concerned, you aren't involved in the process and have no idea what the facts are. So that's a blind accusation.
Well, I'm a local, so I'm pretty sure I have a better idea of what went on than you do.
Anyway, the statues are down and the pumps are fricked up. It doesn't take a dumb fricking Aggie to see what his priorities were.
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:12 pm to Godfather1
Two lines. Two logical fallacies. Damn that's good.
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:12 pm to AggieDub14
quote:That isn't a blind accusation.
Well as far as I'm concerned, you aren't involved in the process and have no idea what the facts are. So that's a blind accusation.
Mitch is the head of the department which handles the pumping systems.
He clearly did not make them a priority.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:13 pm to Scruffy
Okay, but how do you know they would be fixed otherwise?
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:16 pm to AggieDub14
Are you saying that if he would have made an integral aspect of the city (the pumps) a priority, they still may not be working?
You have even less faith in Mitch than I do, and that is actually impossible.
You have even less faith in Mitch than I do, and that is actually impossible.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:17 pm to AggieDub14
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If the statue issue never came up, are we all 100% sure the pumps would have been fixed?
If not, then the statues are irrelevant to the pumps. That was my point.
Your logic is off base because it's not an "either/or" issue.
It simply highlights how inept our city gov't is. They prioritize things that don't matter, while ignoring the important things.
I'm sure we could find tons of stupid shite the city spent money on instead of fixing pumps. The statues are just a glaring highlight of a much larger problem.
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:18 pm to Scruffy
I'm saying there could have been circumstances that were out of his control. Another possibility is that his incompetence stretches beyond the edge of your imagination. Either is fine. My point is that you can't just assume with 100% certainty that they would have been fixed otherwise.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:18 pm to rintintin
I'm most certainly not treating it as an either/or issue. Everyone else is. Read what I typed again.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:22 pm to AggieDub14
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My point is that you can't just assume with 100% certainty that they would have been fixed otherwise.
I'm at 99% certainty they would not have been fixed.
Again, it doesn't matter. It highlights a bigger issue.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:26 pm to AggieDub14
quote:Well, considering that we can't prove anything unless we travel to another dimension where Mitch isn't incompetent, this discussion is largely useless.
My point is that you can't just assume with 100% certainty that they would have been fixed otherwise.
The only thing that matters is that he is incompetent to the point of causing actual physical destruction to the city.
The buck stops with the head honcho.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:30 pm to AggieDub14
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I'm saying there could have been circumstances that were out of his control. Another possibility is that his incompetence stretches beyond the edge of your imagination. Either is fine. My point is that you can't just assume with 100% certainty that they would have been fixed otherwise.
Those pumps are the lifeline of his city. There is absolutely no way he didn't know about this. He chose to gamble and keep it quiet but he came up snake eyes. This is 110% his fault.
The real question is how long he has known about this issue.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:33 pm to AggieDub14
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I'm most certainly not treating it as an either/or issue. Everyone else is.
I think you're misinterpreting what most are saying. They don't necessarily mean (at least I don't) that if the statues wouldn't have come down, the pumps would have been fixed.
It's simply pointing to the city's misappropriation of funds.
Now that the pumps have to be fixed, well it would've been nice to have that money, especially when Mitch says "oh we have to suspend other projects around the city to fix these pumps."
Eta: and not to mention apparently this was known quite some time ago, yet the city chose to ignore it and focus on the much more important statues. Again, it's about priorities.
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:41 pm to rintintin
i hope that pandering pile of shite is shitting his pants right now. every single car and house that floods is directly his fault. mr president of the s&wb who didn't do SHITTTTTTTT for the last 7 years.
im sorry, but if youre in charge for 7 years, and are the de-facto head of a department, it is YOUR responsibility to know what is going on in that department. it is YOUR responsibility for making sure everything is up to par. ESPECIALLY if your fricking city is a damn bowl surrounded by water and smack dab in the middle of hurricane central.
frick mitch the bitch. i love that he sees his national ambitions drowning in front of him due to his glaring and obvious malfeasance in office. hes an absolute failure and has done absolutely zero good for new orleans as a whole. nothing but a pandering pile of shite.
im sorry, but if youre in charge for 7 years, and are the de-facto head of a department, it is YOUR responsibility to know what is going on in that department. it is YOUR responsibility for making sure everything is up to par. ESPECIALLY if your fricking city is a damn bowl surrounded by water and smack dab in the middle of hurricane central.
frick mitch the bitch. i love that he sees his national ambitions drowning in front of him due to his glaring and obvious malfeasance in office. hes an absolute failure and has done absolutely zero good for new orleans as a whole. nothing but a pandering pile of shite.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:42 pm to LuckyTiger
Can always count on Mitch to look after the citizens of NOLA.
Hey peeps, duck.
Hey peeps, duck.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:44 pm to AggieDub14
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The statue issue is definitely the reason the pumps aren't ready
Mitch paid millions in taxpayer money to get rid of the statues after he said he wouldn't do that and now he's begging the feds for a bailout for the pumps when he wasted it all on his bullshite red herring in the statues.
frick him.
He truly is the worst kind of slimy, sleazy, corrupt and neglectful politician that fricks up cities, states, and countries.
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:47 pm to LuckyTiger
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Harvey
This damn tiger has brought nothing but problems.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:54 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Take refuge on the empty pedestals.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 5:54 pm to upgrayedd
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Those pumps are the lifeline of his city. There is absolutely no way he didn't know about this. He chose to gamble and keep it quiet but he came up snake eyes.
This.
Anybody who's driven the streets of Lakeview/Gentilly in the past few years knows that they're minefields. People in those neighborhoods literally have signs in their yards saying "I pay my taxes, fix my damn roads". Yet those statues took priority over fixing the infrastructure. Hell, Mitch even callously joked about it when Lee came down.
And still, none of his malfeasance would've gotten any real exposure had the city not flooded so soon after the statues came down. THAT was his misfortune. It exposed him.
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