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re: So Devos flubs her answer on IDEA, now IDEA website down
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:50 am to sms151t
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:50 am to sms151t
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top trying to be an internet badass let teachers do their jobs, doctors do theirs, and shut the frick up.
No.
Teachers are prevented from doing their jobs for the many because they have to cater to the few with behavioral peoblems that have been reclassified as learning disabilities in the last 30 years.
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Did you know Gifted and Talented is also covered by IDEA
Relevance?
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 9:51 am
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:51 am to uway
quote:What are you talking about? That's not a learning disability.
behavioral peoblems that have been reclassified as learning disabilities in the last 30 years.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:53 am to uway
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Teachers are prevented from doing their jobs for the many because they have to cater to the few with behavioral peoblems that have been reclassified as learning disabilities in the last 30 years.
Behavioral problems are not Learning Disabilities
Stop trying too hard. A Behavioral problem is not even a Mental disability. Some Behavioral problems are choice. A Choice is not a disability.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 9:55 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:54 am to sms151t
quote:It's fascinating to see people make such confident assertions, but not realize they have no idea what they're talking about.
Behavioral problems are not Learning Disabilities
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:54 am to uway
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I bet the vast majority of cases are the first two, and we should not be accommodating people for that bullshite.
So what would you do with children with Autism or ADHD?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:55 am to uway
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Teachers are prevented from doing their jobs for the many because they have to cater to the few with behavioral peoblems that have been reclassified as learning disabilities in the last 30 years.
Can you provide me with a link to that? In the state of GA, there are strict guidelines on how a child is classified based on DSM-IV. There are psychologists that run a battery of tests to determine a child's cognitive and behavioral functioning before any classification is made. You truly are clueless on this subject and should probably gracefully bow out of the conversation.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:56 am to Boss
Georgia has not gone to the DSM-V yet either? I know my state is struggling to adapt to the DSM-V.
I need to start an IEP I will join the conversation later, if it is still going.
I need to start an IEP I will join the conversation later, if it is still going.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 9:58 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:01 am to sms151t
quote:Technically DSM isn't really the applicable diagnostic guidelines.
Georgia has not gone to the DSM-V yet either? I know my state is struggling to adapt to the DSM-V.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:05 am to imjustafatkid
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Things like this are a disservice to the person with "special needs" by giving them an unrealistic view of the workplace.
nah - it sets them up nicely in their future career of lodging discrimination lawsuits against any employer who wants to get their product produced on time within budget.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:06 am to uway
Autism = b.s.??
Uway is uniformed.
Uway is uniformed.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:06 am to buckeye_vol
Correct, it isn't but it is used for the actual classification categories.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:09 am to buckeye_vol
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It's fascinating to see people make such confident assertions, but not realize they have no idea what they're talking about.
Did y'all not read the OP?
Was it not critical of Texas for keeping kids with IDDs out of special education?
Were autism and ADD not first in the list of IDDs that included blindness, epilepsy, and mental illness?
Don't tell me you're being pedantic about the difference between "learning disability" and "IDD".
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The Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) is a four-part (A-D) piece of American legislation that ensures students with a disability are provided with Free Appropriate Public Education (FAPE) that is tailored to their individual needs
Are we or are we not legislating the spending money and resources tailoring to the individual needs of kids with ADD?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:12 am to uway
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Are we or are we not legislating the spending money and resources tailoring to the individual needs of kids with ADD?
It depends. You have to look at the individual needs of the child to see if they qualify for services. We have children with AU that don't qualify. We have children with EBD that don't need services. It all depends. Stop talking in absolutes.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:14 am to uway
quote:Well ADHD is not considered an IDD.
Were autism and ADD not first in the list of IDDs
quote:Well they are not the same whatsoever. Their etiology, diagnostic profiles, and real-world implications are vastly different.
Don't tell me you're being pedantic about the difference between "learning disability" and "IDD".
quote:And ADHD is not a specific category under IDEA anyways. Regardless, a DSM diagnosis does not automatically trigger special education services.
Are we or are we not legislating the spending money and resources tailoring to the individual needs of kids with ADD?
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 10:15 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:35 pm to Boss
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The Justice Department and the Department of Education should be acting as a check to ensure that the states
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Historically speaking, states will provide the minimum required, and for our most vulnerable segment of children, the minimum is not good enough.
Historically speaking the federal government has done little if any to make this better.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:09 pm to Mephistopheles
quote:How does it affect the problem at all?
I'm sure I don't need to explain why school choice doesn't necessarily solve this problem,
Shame, shame, shame on unions now trying to maintain their powerbase on the backs of disabled kids. It is disgusting!
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:19 pm to Mephistopheles
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saved the Texas Education Agency billions of dollars but denied vital supports to children with autism, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, dyslexia, epilepsy, mental illnesses, speech impediments, traumatic brain injuries, even blindness and deafness,
I'm going to guess the majority of the kids "denied vital supports" had either ADHD diagnoses (anyone can get one), ODD diagnoses, or were "on the spectrum" (lol).
What do you bet?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:21 pm to Boss
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an you provide me with a link to that? In the state of GA, there are strict guidelines on how a child is classified based on DSM-IV. There are psychologists that run a battery of tests to determine a child's cognitive and behavioral functioning before any classification is made. You truly are clueless on this subject and should probably gracefully bow out of the conversation.
What's your experience with this? Are you an educator, counselor or advocate?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:52 am to Mephistopheles
Question to many here..... Have you ever attended a School Board meeting or directly engaged a School Board member directly?
I think not many
I think not many
Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:57 am to Mephistopheles
Elections have consequences...as your messiah said. 
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