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re: So - another campaign speech.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:34 am to ChineseBandit58
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:34 am to ChineseBandit58
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So - another campaign speech.
Really? Had a lot different feel to me.
No harassment of media, more conciliatory. His campaign speeches are more informal and much more interactive with the crowd.
I thought it was good.
Not a huge fan of the super-populist, nativist take; but that is a policy difference not a legitimate critique of his speech.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:37 am to ChineseBandit58
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ChineseBandit58
sadly you do not pay attention. the man had not even taken office and has already saved jobs(carrier) working on bringing more here from overseas (china), has already alerted canada and mexcio about re doing NAFTA, TPP is dead,ready to start on wall and on and on and on.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:40 am to BigJim
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No harassment of media, more conciliatory. His campaign speeches are more informal and much more interactive with the crowd.
I thought it was good.
My wife thought it was great - daughter thought it was good.
I was just hoping for something more inspirational - like maybe he had a better vocabulary than he ever showed in the campaigns when he was looking for populist votes. Perhaps something appealing to more than an elementary intellect.
In any event - MAGA - I am extremely impressed with his cabinet and am looking forward to his success in accomplishing all the things he promised.
This does demonstrate that he is not going to give a single frick about PC - the one thing I have always loved about him. I hope that attitude spreads far and wide.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:42 am to ChineseBandit58
ANNNNNND - they are GONE!! - long nightmare is over.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:44 am to ChineseBandit58
He hit the beats of his campaign speeches, but this was a very different speech and without a doubt his best.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:53 am to VOLhalla
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His supporters are 100% behind him and he's won the campaign. Softening rhetoric and being more unifying could help raise his approval rates which would increase his leverage over Congress.
Don't need to unify.
Obama taught us that.
The Democrats fighting H. W. Bush and G. W. Bush taught us that.
Some reminders from our outgoing president.
A few things he said about Republicans...
"They can come along with us but they are going to have to sit in the back"
"The election is over, we won"
"Elections have consequences"
"I have a pen and a phone"
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 11:54 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:02 pm to Loserman
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Don't need to unify.
Obama taught us that.
The Democrats fighting H. W. Bush and G. W. Bush taught us that.
Some reminders from our outgoing president.
A few things he said about Republicans...
"They can come along with us but they are going to have to sit in the back"
"The election is over, we won"
"Elections have consequences"
"I have a pen and a phone"
I agree with all that - but you can be as ugly as you want in the trenches during the actual fight.
He could even deliver another speech tomorrow where he outlined all that.
But an inauguration speech which celebrates the "peaceful transfer of power" and you have a captive audience of the "other side" is not an appropriate place nor time for a bloody word fight when the other side has no opportunity to respond.
Above all, I want class and decency. This was too much rubbing it in for my tastes.
I do want him to be ruthless when dealing with the DEMs. No quarter - no compromise.
He ended on a fine note however - I fully support all that he said. I am only disappointed in what he didn't say and the way in which he said it.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:04 pm to ChineseBandit58
I don't really mind the tone, I just disagree with a lot of the philosophy.
Still prefer this result to HRC, of course, but interested to see where we go from here.
Still prefer this result to HRC, of course, but interested to see where we go from here.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:05 pm to Pettifogger
The tone was fine, but the emphasis was basically on economic protectionism which doesn't work.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:06 pm to FutureRATeammember
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The tone was fine, but the emphasis was basically on economic protectionism which doesn't work.
You and I are in complete alignment
No problem with most of the America First and all the other "scary" USA rhetoric, but I'm not a protectionist.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:07 pm to ChineseBandit58
Well, we just had 8 years of campaign speeches, so it should be old hat to you.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:07 pm to ChineseBandit58
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I was just hoping for something more inspirational
You've got to keep in mind that he is not a long time politician. He is a no non-sense business man. So giving fluffed up speeches is just something he isn't going to be apt to do.
But his speeches layout exactly where his stances are, and the vision he wants to layout. He's never going to mince words, because he just isn't wired that way.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:08 pm to Pettifogger
Me neither... I see America first as really nothing more that empty sloganeering. It's shows how terrible our media is that they are hammering it.
Focus should be on his protectionist policies which will fail as they always have.
Focus should be on his protectionist policies which will fail as they always have.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:09 pm to ChineseBandit58
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ChineseBandit58
I must say I've given you a lot of shite through the years, but you've remained pretty objective through this process.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:12 pm to Pettifogger
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Still prefer this result to HRC, of course
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:54 pm to ChineseBandit58
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I agree with all that - but you can be as ugly as you want in the trenches during the actual fight. He could even deliver another speech tomorrow where he outlined all that. But an inauguration speech which celebrates the "peaceful transfer of power" and you have a captive audience of the "other side" is not an appropriate place nor time for a bloody word fight when the other side has no opportunity to respond. Above all, I want class and decency. This was too much rubbing it in for my tastes. I do want him to be ruthless when dealing with the DEMs. No quarter - no compromise. He ended on a fine note however - I fully support all that he said. I am only disappointed in what he didn't say and the way in which he said it.
The other side decided not to show up and boycotted it.
They already made a choice not to want unity.
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