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re: Smug PhD gets put in her place

Posted on 11/6/23 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9274 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 7:44 pm to
Most people with Ph.D.’s would agree that what a person knows is not really that important to Ph.D. life. What’s more important is what you are trying to discover and why. The challenge is mastering the methodology and the processes that facilitate discovery. It’s not about knowing stuff or demonstrating how smart you are.

There are plenty of poorly adjusted and “useless” people with graduate degrees… but the very best Ph.D.’s are some of wisest and most understanding people you will ever meet. They are expert learners more than anything else.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26787 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 7:45 pm to
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The most insufferable bitch I have EVER had as a teacher insisted on being called “Dr”


Hehh...I've heard it put as "I've earned this title and you WILL refer to me as Dr, not Mrs, ms, or anything else"
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21740 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:37 pm to
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This is old.


Define old.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8693 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:37 pm to
Educated beyond their intelligence.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2917 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:48 pm to
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This is old.



Just because it's old doesn't make it any less relevant or true.
Some of the stupidest people I have ever encountered (I am 58) have advanced college degrees.
Education does not necessarily equate to intelligence.
Posted by SquaringCircles
Member since Sep 2021
1479 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:54 pm to
Now you know why the PhDs in virology killed about 20 million people and then lied about it to protect their industry. Or why MDs gave generations of kids autism and autoimmune diseases and then lied about it to protect their industry.

I think that conformity/nonconformity is an undervalued metric of someone’s brain. I am thoroughly unimpressed by intelligent people who defend harmful orthodoxies.
Posted by SeafoodPlatter
Member since Jul 2012
664 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:13 pm to
This is a fairly old clip but never noticed the IQs above their heads, a PhD with a 112 IQ? Motherfrick, I should have 2 Nobel prizes, tenure at every University, and be king of MENSA. What a turd.
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 9:15 pm
Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
893 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:22 pm to
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academia is referred to as the ivory tower.


Have you seen academia lately? Large black women with HR certificates in positions of power based on diversity and zero qualifications. A recent, now fired, VP at my college nearly bankrupted our campus with her “progressive ideas”.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 6:33 am to
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this board just hates anything that has to do with education.


Are you trying to "out stupid" yourself?

It's working.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 6:34 am to
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They hate bad teachers, failing public schools and woke universities and colleges.


Fixed it for you, no charge....
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 6:36 am to
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Hehh...I've heard it put as "I've earned this title and you WILL refer to me as Dr, not Mrs, ms, or anything else"


Damn...not sure if confronted with someone like that I wouldn't proceed in a Hannibal Lecter-esque mental deconstruction of that person that would lead to them hanging themselves....

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19370 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:44 am to
Climbing to the top ranks of any institution, including academia, is about fitting in, doing exactly what’s expected, right or wrong, it doesn’t matter, and doing everything in your power not to rock the boat.

Being intelligent can actually be a handicap.
Posted by Telecaster
Memphis
Member since May 2017
1680 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:52 am to
Looks like this old bromide still remains true: PhD = Piled high and Deep.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3663 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:59 am to
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This is old.
quote:

Mo Jeaux
So is your shtick.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4153 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 9:11 am to
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this board just hates anything that has to do with education. They hate teachers, public schools and all universities and colleges.


I don't know about all of that. I'll tell you what i think about those three things, but I'm only speaking for myself.

Teachers at public schools and professors at colleges are basically part-time employees who (as a group and also many individuals)routinely make a whole lot of noise about being underpaid, despite research showing that they don't take work home any more often than their middle management private sector counterparts. And the high school and lower teachers get what? 16 weeks of vacation a year? What other employee who is considered full time gets that?

As for college professors, I'll tell you my wife's experience. When she went from the private sector to the university setting the first week she was at her new job she called me and asked, "What do I do?"

"What do you mean, what do you do?"

"I have to be here for 8 hours every day but there's only about 4-5 hours of work to do. What do I do the rest of the time?"

"What does everybody else do?"

"Get coffee a lot, walk around campus, take 2 hour liunches, etc., etc."

"Well, then that's what you should do too."

Maybe you have a different experience, but that's mine. Now, it bears mentioning that my wife is not in a department in which anyone is expected to do research. But we aren't talking about the research aspect of colleges, we're talking about teaching, right?

Public schools. Do I really need to post statistics? Do I need to tell you that according to the DOE's own numbers, almost 1/5 of high school GRADUATES can't read, as in, are functionally illiterate? That (again, according to the DOE) over HALF of the adult population of the country reads below a sixth grade level?

We're not talking about how we stack up on standardized tests against China or Japan in advanced math, we're talking about being able to read and understand The Outsiders.

What should my opinion be of public schooling in America?

Universities and colleges—My wife works in a clinical field and was (she refused to do it anymore after this) the HIPPA compliance officer for the school clinic. Several of the supervising professors refused to follow HIPPA guidelines in the clinic. They didn't believe that the government would punish them for violating HIPPA guidelines because—and I am not kidding—because the clinic was associated with a major university and because it is a "teaching facility."

Literally the school's clinic is on the line here.

So my obvious question was, "Why doesn't whoever is in charge just tell those idiots that they will follow HIPPA guidelines or they won't be teaching at the university any more?"

The answer: "No one is in charge."

"What the hell do you mean, 'No one is in charge?'"

"Just what I say. There is no one person with the authority to tell those professors that. That would violate the culture of "egalitarianism" that universities are so proud of. The dean can make recommendations, but she's not going to force anyone to do anything. They want the departments to figure it out collectively and democratically. Plus, those professors all have tenure."

"Even if it means the government fines the university millions of dollars and you guys lose the clinic and possibly the entire department?"

"Apparently."

So she resigned as the HIPPA compliance officer so that if/when the worst case scenario happened her name wouldn't be listed as the person responsible, but that is when I learned how idiotic and backward the culture at universities is.

Someone will claim that I am making the above up, but I can assure you that I am not. And the university that I am referring to is represented by the logo on several posters' avatars here on this board. I won't say which one.

Someone posted that the university culture is not about what you know but what you seek to know, and that's probably true so far as that goes, but that's not the whole story. What degree you have, how many degrees you have, and from what institutions is the primary currency in academia. It is quite true that no one cares what you know, how well you can actually do your job, or (especially) whether you can teach what you may know to tuition-paying students. That's why those ninnies didn't believe the government would crush them for HIPPA violations. "But we're a major teaching university."

I only have time for one story this morning, but rest assured that there are many more I could tell regarding the culture of academia.

I will say that, to address the poster to whom I am now replying's fallacious red herring, I din't have pre-conceived notions about academia before my wife got her current job and I started employing medical physicians.

I quickly realized, however, that at least according to my own experience, every stereotype I had ever heard about the Ivory Towers and those who inhabit them were pretty much true. Not for every person involved, but the vast majority.

This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 9:14 am
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9270 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:55 pm to
@anc, my comment about academics being the worst does not apply to you. ive spent 9 years over 2 degrees in higher education and am bitter, but you a good one if that is your field.
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 3:42 pm to
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this board just hates anything that has to do with education. They hate teachers, public schools and all universities and colleges.

And you hate men, mostly white ones. For whatever reason from misandry and/or racism.

I would bet the majority of the people that interact here have an education above just a HS diploma, and the majority have gone thru the public school system. So yeah we have opinions on how they are being handled, especially since the majority of us are not a negative on the govt revenue books. Doesn't mean we hate it, though a teacher that tells a child they are the wrong gender, etc is deserving of that hate.

We have every right to be critical of how public education is handled, and the fact you feel we don't is a bad look on your ability to handle criticism from others, probably because you are unable to understand said criticism.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 3:45 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:46 am to
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This is old.


Have you decided on an arbitrary cutoff date of what we are and aren't allowed to post, your Eminence?


Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6561 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:50 am to
Something fricky about that video.

They found 6 random people, and 4 of the random people had an IQ in the top 2%?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24816 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:53 am to
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My wife has a PhD and last night she couldn’t figure out what was wrong with the TV.

It was off.


A buddy's wife, who has a master's degree, watched The Martian with Matt Damon and asked if we had actually went to Mars before.
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