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re: Smug PhD gets put in her place

Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:07 am to
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:07 am to
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She's directly saying teachers make no difference.


No no, she's saying that Teachers only make a GOOD difference and aren't responsible for ANYTHING bad.....
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261332 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:08 am to
She's trying, but she really said they make no difference.

She just don't realize it.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4152 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:46 am to
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So do I, which means we waste a shotload on public education for people who shouldn't be in the system.


Absolutely.

IMO this is how it should go:

1. Public school is not obligatory. At any age or grade level. It's a public service offered but not required. It has standards that must be met to stay eligible to attend.

2. It's not a mechanism to be used for babysitting, welfare distribution, social engineering, etc. It's there to teach academic subjects. You go, learn, and go home. Should take maybe 4 hours a day.

3. It should only exist in its current form (well, it's current form minus the above) through maybe 5-6 grade. Once students have learned to read and mastered basic math, the structure changes.

4. From approximately grade 6 through high school, the only subjects that require face to face teacher to student interaction would be certain STEM subjects. Everything else is available online and students can access it and work through it at their own pace. One standardized national curriculum, everybody knows what's in it. If students want to cheat on online tests, fine. Because there will be a graduation test to graduate (given in person) at the end of the curriculum, so they're only delaying the inevitable.

5. Schools could be MUCH smaller and require MUCH less staff/faculty. In addition to the STEM classes still taught in traditional manner, there could be some teachers standing by to help tutor students having trouble in the online curricula.

6. The graduation test would be like the current SAT/ACT—given in person, changed every test cycle.

Even if taxpayers paid for every student in the country to get a new laptop every three years AND paid for internet access for every student in the country, we'd still save a giant bucketful of money doing it this way in the medium to long term. We'd have to develop the online curriculum and that would be a job, but after that it would only need to be updated every so often and would just run by itself.

And I am convinced that the quality of education and learning (for those who chose to avail themselves of it) would soar far above what it is now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261332 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:56 am to
Exactly.

We turned our focus on the lowest of learners. Everyone else suffers.

Its time to admit about half the people in this country really are wasting a 9th -12th grade education, and were wasting resources on them.

Public schools are a job creator for adults and day care/day prision for kids. For most of our history, the best of the best have set the standards in the USA, now its the lowest of the low.
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 11:58 am
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:58 am to
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One of the dumbest people I have ever met was a double board-certified medical specialist I employed. Not because he lacked intelligence in an academic sense, but because he was emotionally stuck at around age 11.

You wouldn't believe it if I told you some of the stuff he would routinely do.

Several of my wife's colleagues are the same way (although nobody I have ever met was quite as bad as this guy).

seen that.

I also have one doctor who forwarded me to other doctors when I call him on some of his boneheadedness. I have to keep an eye on this new guy too however he is head and shoulders better..
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50354 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:59 pm to
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My acute observational skills coupled with the inability to be dishonest
so you have no actual evidence? Your fixation on labels and division is not really productive.
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 1:00 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Your fixation on labels and division is not really productive.


Sweetie, this is an Internet message board sub-forum on a Sports site.

NOTHING on here is remotely "productive"....
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261332 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:02 pm to
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Your fixation on labels and division is not really productive.


Your denial of who you are is pathetic.

You walk the party line 10000% and not sure if youve ever offered an original opinion.

Why should we continue to put so much money (out of whack with the developed world) into a failed product?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261332 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:03 pm to
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Sweetie, this is an Internet message board sub-forum on a Sports site.


Shes flat out lying here. Party line all the way, straight down the ballot.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50354 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:52 pm to
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Your denial of who you are is pathetic.
what does that have to do with anything? Why not just discuss the topics at hand instead of trying to make everything personal? It’s so tiring.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50354 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:53 pm to
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NOTHING on here is remotely "productive"....


So you’re admitting to just shitposting?

Posted by RoIITide
Member since Dec 2010
852 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:01 pm to
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My dad was a tool and die maker.


I work with these guys daily. Been around enough of them to know…take the best guy in the shop and I guarantee he’s the smartest guy in the entire plant.

None of them give a rats arse about what management has to say either….they know they can’t easily replace them and they could have another job lined up before they left the building.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:17 pm to
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So you’re admitting to just shitposting?


No, I'm saying I'm a grownup who knows the difference between real life and Social Media.

You come off as someone whose real life sucks to the point that you are far too invested in Social Media to understand how silly all this is and as a result, you take the FACT that Public Schools are failing all too personally when people point it out.

I would bet a thousand dollars you're one of those teachers who has engaged in one of those stupid Tik-Tok "Teachers Are Heroes" self-aggrandizing dance videos....


This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 4:20 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:18 pm to
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It’s so tiring.


Then hit the door, sweetie.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50354 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:20 pm to
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I would bet a thousand dollars you're one of those teachers who has engaged in one of those stupid Tik-Tok "Teachers Are Heroes" self-aggrandizing dance videos....
I don’t know what these are because I have better things to do than consume TikTok videos. Thanks for keeping updated on what’s trending i guess?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:25 pm to
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I don’t know what these are because I have better things to do than consume TikTok videos.


No one believes you, sweetheart....
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2789 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by jimmarley
Southeast
Member since May 2020
1526 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:14 pm to
Her PhD is in education.
One if the most worthless degrees there is.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4152 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 8:29 am to
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We turned our focus on the lowest of learners. Everyone else suffers.

Its time to admit about half the people in this country really are wasting a 9th -12th grade education, and were wasting resources on them.

Public schools are a job creator for adults and day care/day prision for kids. For most of our history, the best of the best have set the standards in the USA, now its the lowest of the low.


I should say that I don't mind accommodating students who are simply below average intelligence.

When I say standards, I'm mainly talking about standards of behavior and effort.

I think there's a place for students who are not destined to excel in an academic setting and would do better with more practical instruction. Auto repair, woodworking, electrical, welding, plumbing, hairdressing, etc.

So I would not object to students tracking 9th-12th grades through a curriculum like that instead of the curriculum I posted about above. That would increase the cost of education because those pursuits would have to be at least half hands-on, but perhaps we could divert some money currently being spent on junior college programs and replace most if not all of those programs with a really good high school curriculum.

That's the thing. High school used to be considered adequate to prepare an average citizen for the workforce and life in America. Now it's worth very little (because it teaches so little) in the minds of potential employers.

It shouldn't replace traditional college majors like engineering or nursing, but it should be able to prepare a student for a career in welding or several other blue collar trades.
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