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re: Senator Ron Johnson just said on Tucker the Pfizer vaccine is not approved.

Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:47 am to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56656 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:47 am to
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I will bet you $100 he's taken the vaccine



and?
Posted by willeaux
Member since Jan 2006
2926 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:47 am to
I wonder if it’s a liability reason. Like most things now a days it doesn’t pass the smell test.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7586 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:50 am to
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I like GumboPot, but I don't understand why he is so obsessed with this.

He’s the guy running down the street from the original version of “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”.
I get it.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30957 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:50 am to
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Admins will anchor it. The subject is to controversial for the OT.


Seem pretty straight forward though. The vaccines they are giving here in the US are not FDA approved. Nothing controversial about that, but I know what you mean about the OT.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118969 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:55 am to
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I wonder if it’s a liability reason.


That's my contention and the FDA even states that the difference between BioNTech-Pfizer and Comiranty is a "legal distinction". I have been challenged on this assertion and admittedly I still cannot fully describe the "legal distinction". Pharmaceutical law is out of my expertise.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80798 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:19 am to
That link is terribly confusing. These two statements on the first page. Sounds like different drugs. One is approved one isn't. But both are Pfizer BioNtech

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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to permit the emergency use of the unapproved product, Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 12 years of age and older. Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is authorized for use to provide:


quote:

COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is an FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccine made by Pfizer for BioNTech that is indicated for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older. It is approved for use as a 2-dose primary series for the prevention of COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older. It is also authorized for emergency use to provide:
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 11:20 am
Posted by Mac Power
Member since Jul 2019
435 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:29 am to
Your FDA link sent me down a rabbit hole. I found this take from children's health defense on the situation to be of interest and explains the difference.

LINK
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:29 am to
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I like GumboPot, but I don't understand why he is so obsessed with this.



Employers nationwide are using the FRAUDULENT FDA approval as an excuse to implement the vaccine mandate. But, the only vaccine available to the public is only approved for emergency use.

This is going to lead to some massive lawsuits.
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5601 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:34 am to
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and?


it's just disingenuous. You have these ivy league republican lawmakers who know the truth about the vax and are all fully vaccinated. yet they try to score political points by standing for freedom, knowing damn well there is nothing wrong with the vaccine. They peddle in conspiracy theories to keep y'all wound up. it's all a show.
Posted by Alleman
St. George
Member since Apr 2013
741 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:37 am to
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Seems like that would’ve taken 30 seconds for the FDA to type up and send back to a Senator.

And yet it wasn't. Hmmmmmm
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:42 am to
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knowing damn well there is nothing wrong with the vaccine.



Want MORE?

There are thousands more out there.

And only a complete f*cking MORON would say that these non-vaccine gene therapy drugs are perfectly safe when we're in the infancy of testing this f*cking poison. We don't even know the short-term side effects much less the long-term side effects.

I'm sorry you're regretting your moronic decision to get a completely untested and experimental drug injected into your body.
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 11:46 am
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:44 am to
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Senator Ron Johnson just said on Tucker the Pfizer vaccine is not approved.


Yeah, that other vaccine one by bio whatever is approved. They keep switching words around in documents to make it seem like Pfizer is. But it isn't. There was lots of discussion on it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111586 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:44 am to
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nothing wrong with the vaccine.


This is obviously incorrect. You can posit that the benefits greatly outweigh the negatives. But you can’t say there’s nothing wrong with it.

There are no solutions. Only trade offs.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18064 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:58 am to
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The FDA approved Cominarty(sp) which isn’t available…. Pfizer vaccine is under the Emergency order and is pretty much the same vaccine that’s approved by the FDA, but only in physical properties, not in legal terms, so confusing , like everything messed up by Government



the pfizer version hasn't had to produce quality and ingredient reports. You still have no idea what you are getting batch to batch unless you use one specifically labeled as Cominarty.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13627 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:01 pm to
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In fact doctors are required by the FDA to inform their patients getting the vaccine that the vaccine is not FDA approved:


And it must be shitty medicine if they wont approve it. Because the majority of the FDA budget is from Big Pharma. You know they would approve it if they could.

Ever heard a tv commercial with some lawyer saying "if you used XXXX medicine you may be eligible for a large cash settlement"? Well all those drugs were FDA approved and turned out be be shitty.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82145 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:01 pm to
Ron Johnson and Paul Ryan are bizarro versions of each other.

Paul Ryan started out as the small government conservative firebrand who turned into an establishment GOPe Cuck.

Ron Johnson was a super wealthy country club establishment Republican who’s been red pilled and is now one of our few truly based populist / America First Republicans.

Just pointing out that it’s possible for a “mainstream” Republican to see the light.
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 12:03 pm
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
4086 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:47 pm to
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They peddle in conspiracy theories to keep y'all wound up. it's all a show.


They are not peddling conspiracy theories you imbecile, they're stating the facts that forced vaccinations are against the Constitution of the United States of America.
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