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re: Senator Paul to Speak at Berkley

Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:53 pm to
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Paul opposes letting gays and lesbians into the military, would repeal most gun-control legislation and says states should be free to ban same-sex marriage. Until recently, he opposed all abortions, though he now has suggested that he is open to "exceptions" that may include when the mother's life is at stake.

Gays in the military became a settled issue with the repeal of don't-ask-don't-tell, and Paul has given no indication that he wants to relitigate that. Gun control is a political loser for Democrats, which is why they avoid this issue like the bubonic plague in general elections. And if Obama is willing to let gay marriage be settled by the states, why is it wrong for Paul to do so? Abortion is the one issue that he might have trouble navigating and I pointed that out earlier.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:02 pm to
I'm not debating Rand's electability. Just pointing out the the article wasn't completely flattering.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:11 pm to
They bring newsletters and Paul should mention how media let al gore sr. Off the hook.
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:21 pm to
But Newsome and Reich are Hillary surrogates and Democratic operatives, so I don't view their comments the same way I view those of the person who wrote the article, who only explained Reich's comments to readers who might not know what he was alluding to.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:44 pm to
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If he doesn't "change his positions," Reich suggested, Paul would have difficulty winning a general election.


All the old washed up liberal naysayers of him tell me all I need to know.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:32 am to
LINK

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It was at the school that I met Cosby and Paul late last year and was allowed to sit in as the two men discussed Malcolm X. In an office lined with African ceremonial masks, Paul listened intently to Cosby, who later told me that Paul is asking the right questions and seems genuinely interested in the answers, pointing out that Paul, a Texas native, has learned that while a term like “states’ rights” is a rallying cry for many conservatives, to black voters it can sound like a call for a return to the era of the Dixiecrats.



Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:49 am to
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Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:52 am to
Sounds like Rand is learning how to speak presidentially. Smart man.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:53 am to
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Paul, a Texas native, has learned that while a term like “states’ rights” is a rallying cry for many conservatives, to black voters it can sound like a call for a return to the era of the Dixiecrats.

It's good to see Paul taking advice from Cosby on how to craft his message. There's no benefit in him doing anything reminiscent of how Ronald Reagan launched campaign in Philadelphia, MS in 1980, and he can still get the same message across with a different choice of words.
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Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:36 pm to
Yesterday Jennifer Rubin accused Paul of throwing Berkeley students "some anti-government trinkets on national security". As expected, she attacked him again today in the Washington Post. Paul can expect these attacks on a daily basis now that he's leading in the Republican polls.

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Unlike Paul, (Jack) Kemp dressed in a jacket and tie (with his tell-tale collar bar), not baggy jeans. He was a U.S. congressman and wasn’t going to insult students by pretending to be an undergrad who’d just rolled out of bed.

Unlike Paul, he did not tell the crowd how his party colleagues were old and unlikable.

Unlike Paul, Kemp talked mainly about the promise of free market conservatism, the dignity of work and the blessings of private property ownership. He went to the core of conservatism, defended it and explained why students and the whole society should embrace it.

Unlike Paul, Kemp did not revel in students’ anti-government, paranoid visions. . . . . .



In the ’70s and ’80s, Ronald Reagan and Kemp went about the hard work of convincing habitual Democrat voters that conservatism might be in their interests. In contrast, Paul seems to be affirming bad impulses on the hard left and suggesting that conservatism is all about aversion to national security.

At least Paul’s father was candid about what he believed (which meant he wouldn’t be president) without sizing up what his audience wanted to hear. (Rand Paul, in this regard, is more like Hillary Clinton, who is happy to cater to the whims of each audience — be it filled with liberal feminists or hedge fund tycoons. She can be anti-war or pro-defense, whatever you’d like.)

No wonder the mainstream media eats this up. Paul is simultaneously playing to the hard left’s anti-defense sentiments (although it is not clear if he still thinks Edward Snowden is today’s Martin Luther King Jr.) while trying to discredit mainstream Republicans. In fact, if he keeps this up he’ll have his own MSNBC show.

LINK /

She mad.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33268 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 3:09 pm to
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Unlike Paul, (Jack) Kemp dressed in a jacket and tie (with his tell-tale collar bar), not baggy jeans. He was a U.S. congressman and wasn’t going to insult students by pretending to be an undergrad who’d just rolled out of bed.


But I bet she thinks Obama's mom jeans are cool

She so mad.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119030 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 3:16 pm to
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Unlike Paul, (Jack) Kemp dressed in a jacket and tie (with his tell-tale collar bar), not baggy jeans. He was a U.S. congressman and wasn’t going to insult students by pretending to be an undergrad who’d just rolled out of bed.


Pointing this out is laughable.

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Unlike Paul, he did not tell the crowd how his party colleagues were old and unlikable.


He should have mentioned how angry and dried up Rubin is.

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Unlike Paul, Kemp talked mainly about the promise of free market conservatism, the dignity of work and the blessings of private property ownership. He went to the core of conservatism, defended it and explained why students and the whole society should embrace it.




Rubin's version of "free market conservatism" = crony capitalism. See Chris Christie and Tesla for a recent example. IMO Paul's views on free markets are going to be tough for big business to swallow. Big business loves to partner with government to block competition. Paul want to promote free market capitalism, not free market conservatism.

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Unlike Paul, Kemp did not revel in students’ anti-government, paranoid visions. . .


Well, Rubin is right here. Standing up for the 4th amendment is anti-government...anti-federal-government. I thought conservatives were small government types. I guess I made a mistake confusing small government with anti-government. Rubin must be in favor of a small government that records its citizens phone records and internet traffic without a warrant. But as long as it's a small government it's okay.

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In the ’70s and ’80s, Ronald Reagan and Kemp went about the hard work of convincing habitual Democrat voters that conservatism might be in their interests. In contrast, Paul seems to be affirming bad impulses on the hard left and suggesting that conservatism is all about aversion to national security.


Except for the fact that the neocons hijacked Reagan's version of national security and foreign policy. Reagan was much less interventionist and more prudent in his foreign policies initiatives than Jennifer Rubin and her ilk. In fact, George Bush Sr. was more prudent than the current crop of neocons that was born out of GWB 43 administration.

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She mad.



Yes, yes she is.

Paul ascendancy to the GOP nomination would be glorious just to witness the butt hurt flow though Jennifer Rubin.
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