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re: Seattle to tax the wealthy

Posted on 7/11/17 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 3:54 pm to
headline next January:
Wealthy Leaving Seattle

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Seattle Property Values Plummet

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Pearl Jam Moves Offices to New Iberia
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9316 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:08 pm to
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Walla Walla don't count.


I'd kill myself if I lived in Walla Walla. Or anywhere in central Washington, for that matter.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35476 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:10 pm to
Spokane area, then?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:12 pm to
I'd love for them to push Boeing out
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:14 pm to
Well there is a problem where the wealthy are accumulating more money at a terrifying pace and a lot of that money isn't being circulated back into the system. It's a very troubling sign when the top 1 percent of people have more wealth than the bottom 90 percent. I know I sound like a Bernie billboard right now, but this is a problem that needs to be solved because America has turned into an oligarchy.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 4:15 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45729 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:18 pm to
Dumb. They were ranked #33 in tax burden, just ahead of Texas at #34. They were actually reasonable.

LINK
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47562 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:18 pm to
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Who would want to buy a home in an extra 2.5% income tax neighborhood?
give me a nice enough house and ill pay an extra can of coke per $50 to live there
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:20 pm to
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and a lot of that money isn't being circulated back into the system.
Explain how this occurs

quote:

. It's a very troubling sign when the top 1 percent of people have more wealth than the bottom 90 percent. I
Why
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:22 pm to
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I know I sound like a Bernie billboard right now, but this is a problem that needs to be solved because America has turned into an oligarchy.
You can't have an oligarchy without a strong government to set the conditions for one. Less government and regulation and taxes are the answer, not more.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:30 pm to
An undeniable fact right now though you have to be a part of the 2 dominating political parties and either have a huge amount of wealth or get funding from very wealthy people to have any chance in politics. The wealthy have a crazy amount of influence on bills and laws. The wealthy run the country and are accumulating a crazy amount of wealth compared to the rest of the country.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:31 pm to
Is this tax imposed on persons who live in Seattle or on persons who work and earn their $250,000+ income in Seattle?
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

It's a very troubling sign when the top 1 percent of people have more wealth than the bottom 90 percent. I know I sound like a Bernie billboard right now, but this is a problem that needs to be solved because America has turned into an oligarchy.


I agree. What is worse is how so many people white knight over 1 percenters who do not care about them or the country's well being.

The excuses people make fall are as follows

1. poor people are lazy

2. poor people who do work don't work hard enough


To be fair, there are poor people who try to take advantage of the system and do not put in enough effort. But as someone who started off poor in childhood and working my way up, I have noticed flaws in all these arguments.

1. There are people working 2 to 3 jobs struggling to make ends meet. They can barely take care of themselves much less kids. And even if they don't have kids, its a struggle to just pay the bills. Even for educated people, decent paying ($45K year) jobs are getting harder to come across.

And by contrast, not all rich people are hard-workers. Some are and that is to be respected. But gaining money via inheritance is not exactly my definition of hard-work. You deserve whatever your family leaves you, but to pass inheritance off as being merit based is deceiving.

2. Working hard enough to get a position depends just as much on the company/industry you are working as it does your own efforts. The idea that every business operates in a matter benefitting employees is a pipe dream. Nepotism may be very prevalent in some places. Some lay off employees at higher rates than others.

Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

Explain how this occurs

Because the rich now how to manage money and they don't spend.

quote:

Why

Becuase it's shrinking the middle class which is the backbone of america.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:38 pm to
Have you idiots who are in favor of this proposal read it?

All residents would be required to report their income to a local newly created "IRS-style" bureaucracy. The new IRS-style agency will cost between $20 and $40 million a year. I'm sure you tax returns and confidential information will be well protected from the local government agency. I'm sure they won't leak someone's tax returns in order to push a political agenda.

The good news is that Seattle's budget has increased 35% over the last 4 years (8% per year).

Hello Texas and Florida you will soon have new residents arriving who are wealthy!
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:39 pm to
Boeing's corporate headquarters is out they moved to Chicago to get away from the crazies in Seattle and have been building operation centers in other states since 2001.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

An undeniable fact right now though you have to be a part of the 2 dominating political parties and either have a huge amount of wealth or get funding from very wealthy people to have any chance in politics.
not in national races... Bernie damn near became president $27 at a time
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

It's 2.5%, and Washington doesn't have a state income tax. It won't be.




Use your brain man, this is just a test to see how if fly's and if people will swallow it and what they need to do to ENFORCE it.

Once it is tested and gets going, 2.5% will be a memory. Anyone making 250k needs to sell now while there is a housing market, later they will be stuck
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

Explain how this occurs


You own a company in the US, but you decide you want to invest in a foreign country's natural resources.

You buy custom made foreign homes, cars, etc.

Hiring citizens of another country so that you can outsource the production.

Nothing wrong with these things, but the money is being used to bolster another country's economy, not our own.

quote:

Why


I guess if it doesn't bother you, its not your problem. It does prove that the system is completely rigged.

I really think the conservative notion that everyone who is rich earned it via hard-work is extremely naïve. The fact is, some people simply got lucky. They had a business venture that happened to be at the right place/right time. Or some people simply inherited money and built off of it.

I am not saying that these people should not enjoy their wealth. But I am saying there is complete ignorance of the social/economic factors and the reality of capitalism in that there simply are not always a means for someone to build a better life.

As someone else just posted, the middle class is carrying the strain of all these government programs since the rich can simply reallocate their assets.

The middle class is the oil that keeps society flowing smoothly.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 4:49 pm
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:44 pm to
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not in national races... Bernie damn near became president $27 at a time

He didn't even make it out of the primary. He also needed a large amount of funding to have any sort of shot plus the democratic party made sure he wasn't going to win the thing.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12654 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:48 pm to
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