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Scarborough Is Mad As Hell And He's Not Going To Take It Anymore
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:40 am
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:40 am
After his tirade this morning, MSNBC should air a no-holds-barred debate between Al Sharpton and Joe Scarborough, because it would be must-see TV. Scarborough said a lot of the same things I've said about both the Michael Brown-Darren Wilson and Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman shootings, albeit less inflammatory language, though I'm sure most of the folks here won't appreciate his take on Martin-Zimmerman. Here's the video link:
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:49 am to trackfan
What doe he mean "boy?"
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:55 am to trackfan
I actually agree with everything he said about both cases.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:56 am to trackfan
I'm surprised Mika wasn't getting talking points sent to her by the White House during this, as has happened before.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:00 am to trackfan
Morning Joe is a terrible show.
Joe Scarborough is a terrible host.
Joe Scarborough is a terrible host.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 11:00 am
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:05 am to Ace Midnight
Best news show out there and joe is one of the most level headed and responsible sounding republican on tv.
Joe is exactly the type of conservative the republicans need
Joe is exactly the type of conservative the republicans need
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:06 am to Ace Midnight
scarborough is the perfect republoican, knows everything and what he says is the word.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:10 am to Ace Midnight
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Morning Joe is a terrible show.
Yeah but for the first 20 minutes, commercial free, rant of his you'd a thought you were watching FOX. Other panelists were very quiet during his oration. I'd give him a
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:12 am to trackfan
I watch that show every morning.
Don't really like anybody on the show, but I enjoy the different talking points/spin.
Joe is an establishment Republican who loves Jeb Bush.
Don't really like anybody on the show, but I enjoy the different talking points/spin.
Joe is an establishment Republican who loves Jeb Bush.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:25 am to CherryGarciaMan
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Jeb Bush.
Make...it...stahp....PLEASE!
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:26 am to Homesick Tiger
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Other panelists were very quiet
That was curious
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:27 am to trackfan
I'm only surprised it's taken this long for someone to say it .
The willing suspension of disbelief by so many people has been truly shocking to me.
I've never seen the media this bad. No thinking person believes Wilson was in the wrong, yet we have this narrative that there are 2 equally valid perspectives.
The willing suspension of disbelief by so many people has been truly shocking to me.
I've never seen the media this bad. No thinking person believes Wilson was in the wrong, yet we have this narrative that there are 2 equally valid perspectives.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:28 am to a want
Agreed with all of what he said.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:31 am to a want
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No thinking person believes Wilson was in the wrong, yet we have this narrative that there are 2 equally valid perspectives.
I think a lot of "thinking" people have a problem with the process, the slant the DA took, and the over-reliance on wilson's testimony. It looks a bit of a sham to me. I don't know if he should have been indicted but the whole grand jury process was a complete shitshow, and completely mismanaged, probably intentionally.
I will agree with Joe that this is not the best case for protesters to latch onto. the 12 year old getting shot in cleveland is a much better story.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:32 am to trackfan
What Joe wants to say is "isn't it obvious that this is a fricking smokescreen". Guy In my Sbux coffee circle is former news programming director. Every time a story like this gets traction he says the same thing, "look over here look over here, nothing to see over there"
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:36 am to a want
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The willing suspension of disbelief by so many people has been truly shocking to me.
IRS?
Fast and Furious?
Obamacare lies?
Atkinson?
Benghazi?
Willful suspension of belief is central to the lib playbook these days.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:38 am to trackfan
I understand what he's saying and a lot of it was right on.
I do think the hagiography around Zimmerman was way overdone. The same has been done a bit here in St. Louis with Darren Wilson.
I see those as knee-jerk responses to the media making innocent saints out of Trayvon and Michael Brown. Life is more complicated than a binary system. Trayvon wasn't simply stalked by Zimmerman and Zimmerman isn't an altruistic saint. Michael Brown was a common thief and I wouldn't want Officer Wilson to be my kid's School Resource Officer.
But for the media's sake, every thing is allegory and symbolism and no one event cannot be part of a "larger issue." Sometimes it is just what it is. A tragic set of circumstances involving two or more deeply flawed people in moments of extreme stress. No lessons to learn or morals to be drawn. But that's not how we sell advertising.
I do think the hagiography around Zimmerman was way overdone. The same has been done a bit here in St. Louis with Darren Wilson.
I see those as knee-jerk responses to the media making innocent saints out of Trayvon and Michael Brown. Life is more complicated than a binary system. Trayvon wasn't simply stalked by Zimmerman and Zimmerman isn't an altruistic saint. Michael Brown was a common thief and I wouldn't want Officer Wilson to be my kid's School Resource Officer.
But for the media's sake, every thing is allegory and symbolism and no one event cannot be part of a "larger issue." Sometimes it is just what it is. A tragic set of circumstances involving two or more deeply flawed people in moments of extreme stress. No lessons to learn or morals to be drawn. But that's not how we sell advertising.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:40 am to Hawkeye95
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I will agree with Joe that this is not the best case for protesters to latch onto. the 12 year old getting shot in cleveland is a much better story.
Rosa Parks was not the first person that the NAACP wanted to challenge the segregated buses. However, at least one other candidate (Claudette Colvin) was a 16YO that got pregnant out of wedlock. Parks, OTOH, was securely married and gainfully employed.
Yet if this was being handled today, the leaders of today would ignore Parks and parade Colvin instead.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:41 am to Hawkeye95
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I think a lot of "thinking" people have a problem with the process, the slant the DA took, and the over-reliance on wilson's testimony. It looks a bit of a sham to me. I don't know if he should have been indicted but the whole grand jury process was a complete shitshow, and completely mismanaged, probably intentionally.
No. It wasn't a shitshow. The prosecutor had the temerity to show the grand jury both the initial interviews of the witnesses as well as call them to the stand. It's not his fault they couldn't keep their stories straight.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:44 am to Hawkeye95
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I think a lot of "thinking" people have a problem with the process, the slant the DA took, and the over-reliance on wilson's testimony. It looks a bit of a sham to me. I don't know if he should have been indicted but the whole grand jury process was a complete shitshow, and completely mismanaged, probably intentionally.
This wouldn't have made it to grand jury in most instances. The prosecutor most likely felt pressure to bring it there and thought the guy was innocent.
In other words, not fair to compare to other grand juries. It is the first time I have heard people complain about a prosecutor letting an innocent man go versus a prosecutor doing anything possible to win even if not guilty.
Amazing times.
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