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re: Scalise, Supremacist Conv., David Duke, Stormfront.com... has all the characters

Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:07 am to
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:07 am to
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Do you really think that a politician who is as close to Duke as Obama is Wright could get elected President twice? The fact that you think that Jeremiah Wright is more reprehensible than David Duke is a perfect illustration of why the GOP can't attract minorities.


Can some show me where Jeremiah Wright said anything racist?
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:11 am to
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Can some show me where Jeremiah Wright said anything racist?

He hasn't. Inflammatory? Certainly. Anti-American? Maybe. Racist? No.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 9:14 am
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:12 am to
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He hasn't. Anti-American? Maybe. But not racist.



Gotcha
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:13 am to
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The fact that you think that Jeremiah Wright is more reprehensible than David Duke is a perfect illustration of why the GOP can't attract minorities


It shows a clear inability to understand the perspectives of minorities. The GOP will destroy their party if they never catch up, so go speak.

It'd be in their benefit to learn more about those communities to Attract its potential voters, as opposed to thejr current strategies
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:14 am to
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quote:Can some show me where Jeremiah Wright said anything racist? He hasn't. Anti-American? Maybe. But not racist.



I'd be curious to know if ANY elected official could verify that they have NEVER spoken to anyone who is not or could not be deemed "racist."
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6936 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:14 am to
Scalise is now linked with David duke. That is a disgrace on Louisiana and it is a disgrace on conservatives.

For the person who asked if I was under 35, no, I'm not. I'm old enough to remember the duke mentality and I know my white conservative business owning republican father called duke a c-nt every chance he got. Duke has been and always will be racist. He is scum and it is only the illness that infects Louisiana that would allow someone so crazed to make it to a balot.

There is no way to defend this and no other conservative will want to be with him or be seen making deals with his. What dems do in their time is their issue. But this is a frigging wake up call to true conservatives on whether they will go to save a guy who is linked to white supremacy or they will think about why minorities might have a valid claim the GOP doesn't represent him.

It may take a few weeks but scalise's district is changing too. There are a lot more black and Hispanic voters. He will step down from whip - maybe serve the end of his term and a newer 2.0 version of a conservative Hispanic or at least Hispanic friendly candidate will be put in that slot.

What I wonder is why the hit job now. Who did scalise piss off that it's coming out now. It's got to be from within ranks bc the dem op research crew would have thrown this out years ago.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:14 am to
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It'd be in their benefit to learn more about those communities to Attract its potential voters,

impossible with the black community at large

possible with latinos and asians

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The GOP will destroy their party if they never catch up, so go speak.

what if the GOP hits the asians and lations hard and wins their support? then black support is irrelevant and not necessary
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:15 am to
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I'd be curious to know if ANY elected official could verify that they have NEVER spoken to anyone who is not or could not be deemed "racist."

That's the point I was getting at earlier. No one could survive that type of scrutiny.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:15 am to
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I would like to move away from this sort of "team mentality" you speak of and try be a true "free thinker". What should my reaction to this news be?


Hey stalker....maybe you could say that Scalise knew who he was talking to, and also knew that there were voters there he (regretably) needed...after all they did elect DD. That being said, he's likely not an actual racist or supporter of White Supremacist beliefs.

Maybe skip all of the excusing it as a poor vetting job and the "well Obama!"
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:17 am to
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Maybe skip all of the excusing it as a poor vetting job and the "well Obama!"


Yeah, I didn't do that, so I guess I'm good.
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Hey stalker....

You're a bizarre person.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:17 am to
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It shows a clear inability to understand the perspectives of minorities. The GOP will destroy their party if they never catch up, so go speak.

It'd be in their benefit to learn more about those communities to Attract its potential voters, as opposed to thejr current strategies

The exception is Rand Paul. He's the only Republican out there trying. As a matter of fact, he seems to have become more comfortable talking to minorities than Hillary and other prominent Democrats.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10667 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:17 am to
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A future US President sitting in the pew of an anti-American spewing preacher for more than 20 years is so much worse.


Wright never said black people were superior to white people or other races and he never spewed racism or was in a church sponsored by David Duke.

Being critical of America is not anti-American.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:19 am to
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impossible with the black community at large

It certainly impossible for politicians who share your mindset.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:21 am to
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Maybe skip all of the excusing it as a poor vetting job and the "well Obama!"


Yeah, I didn't do that, so I guess I'm good.



Yeah, I didn't see that I specifically addressed you or your post...but here you are again. And I'm bizarre.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10667 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:21 am to
If the GOP keeps Scalise in the leadership position then anything it says about reaching out to minorities is garbage.

Symbols matter and this is highly symbolic. Scalise isn't being asked to resign from Congress but being in a leadership position is different. I really can see liberals using this against the GOP among minorities.

Do you actually think Ben Carson is cool with this? You can have all your Ben Carsons but this one thing with Scaliese counteracts that.

Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:21 am to
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Being critical of America is not anti-American.

I agree with you that Wright is not anti-American, but I can understand how some folks might view some of his speeches as anti-American.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:21 am to
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whether they will go to save a guy who is linked to white supremacy


Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67910 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:22 am to
What's the big deal?

It was a youthful indescresion and it's not like he he was associating with known terrorist like Bill Ayers.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:22 am to
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Wright never said black people were superior to white people or other races and he never spewed racism or was in a church sponsored by David Duke.

Being critical of America is not anti-American.


Yea if a black man criticises America he is a racist or anti-American. However Sean Hannity and Bill O'Rielly can come on every night and bash the president for every single problem in America. I bet they probably blame slavery on Obama.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9616 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:23 am to
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Do you really think that a politician who is as close to Duke as Obama is Wright could get elected President twice? The fact that you think that Jeremiah Wright is more reprehensible than David Duke


I never said I think that Wright is more reprehensible. But let's have a little perspective here. One speech versus 20 years attendance at a crazy man's Church? And maybe if the media had been a little more inquisitive about Wright, Obama may not have won the first time. But the media being in the tank for Obama is old news.

What does Scalise's record show over the past 12 years or so? Does that count for anything?

Does the fact that Jeremiah Wright was Obama's pastor for 20 years count for anything? Does the fact that a race baiter, riot inciter, convicted libeller like Al Sharpton has visited the WH 80 times count for nothing?

If the AA population wants to continue to be exploited by the Dems, that's their choice and problem.

But this whole attack on Scalise is just an attempt to put the GOP on the defensive, and I think they would be crazy to take the bait.
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