re: say a child was born the wrong race ?

For hiring purposes the Federal government allows applicants to claim the race with which they identify.

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I still would like an explanation on this.

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It's available online. It only takes a few minutes of research.

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For hiring purposes the Federal government allows applicants to claim the race with which they identify.

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Don't forget election purposes as well.
Sincerely,
Elizabeth "Two Dogs Humping" Warren

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Now ballsy , Honorary coonass wants to know how Tuba came to that conclusion. There's really no need to give a snarky , non-answering response like that

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Ok sorry.

Congrats funky monkey, youre officially a (whatever you want to be) !!!!!

Race is just a social construct, anyway, so what difference does it make what race someone says they are.

For example, there is no such thing as the white race - at least before 1690 or so. It was developed as a way of differentiating between master class and servant class and originally, it only encompassed Englishmen. Irishmen weren't in it and neither were Southern Europeans, at first, anyway. Then, it kept expanding.

So, what does it mean to be "white"? Nothing really.

What does it mean to be "black"? Nothing.

These are just societal designations and constructs. There is no genetic difference at all between races. It is only physical appearance.

So, if we have special protections for races because we decided as a society that we were going to, then why can't people with same-sex attraction apply for those special protections as well? Their genetic case for being a special class is the same as those of different races, except for when it comes to race, society has defined people based on appearance and for homosexuals, they define themselves based on sexual attraction.

Tomato. Tomatoh. Both distinctions are false and ignore science, yet Progressives tout them as if they are Divine Law.

It is all a bunch of made up stuff that people use to either gain power over others as the master or to extract power from others as the subordinate.

We never, ever, ever should have made Africans into slaves. We undermined everything we tried to stand for when we did it and we have never recovered.

(And I say "we" because I am descended in part from Englishmen and my ancestors owned slaves. Really dumb move, historically - not to mention evil.)

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Gender identity and physical sex are two separate things.

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Is a person born with their gender identity like a person is born with their sexual preference?

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Is a person born with their gender identity like a person is born with their sexual preference?

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What proof do you have that people are born with their sexual preference unrelated to their gender?

Because there are opposing genders and those genders must come together to procreate the race, there is a biological and genetic case for opposite-sex attraction.

What is the biological and genetic case for same-sex attraction beyond observation of deviance in species and why would that deviance not be seen as an aberration instead of something to be normalized?

I have already said that homosexuals have a social case to make for full inclusion into society with the rights pertaining to it. I do not see where they have a genetic or scientific case for it, though, and saying that they were "born that way" is unprovable.

Since there is no genetic proof for same-sex attraction, then in that case can we say that it is all genetic?

Look, my point is that people who claim "science" as reason for the positions and decisions that they make on the Progressive end of things are hilarious. There is no "science" or bad science behind a myriad of issues. If we followed "science" we would,

1. Not have any racial distinctions at all because there are no scientific/genetic differences between "races"
2. Not be conducting abortions after 12 weeks at all, because science has proven that this is a human being and not a glob of tissue.
3. Not be conferring upon homosexuals protected status for a situation that there is no proof that that they were "born that way."

So, I don't want to hear "science" from Progressives on anything, really.

Let's just call it what it is: Redefining society on the basis of established (and manipulated) norms and social constructs. How did these things develop? Only through the changing or manipulation of public opinion based on nothing more than the changing will of the people.

Once you see how we got where we got and how mere ideas and wish-dreams changed America on these issues from the 1600's on, it is then pretty hard to say that Religion has no role in a "secular" America since it is just as valid as the unprovable assertions that dominate our lives every day put forward by the Left and Progressives.