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Ryan's healthcare bill is a non starter for me--nothing to really change cost
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:36 pm
It does very little to change the underlying cost of healthcare.
I don't like medicaid but the people that are on it can't buy insurance the way we price healthcare now.
We have single payer in medicare. It is the main reason healthcare cost have expanded far faster than inflation for more than two decades now. We have to end the practice of the government being a direct buyer of health care services. That power creates the bribes from lobbyists for the providers that raise all our cost.
We should change medicare to a voucher based plan that will pay for subscriptions to health providers. Instead of having the government pay providers directly, medicare recipients would get voucher to use to pay for subscriptions to health service providers. This pricing model is beginning to pop up in a few places across the country. For example, for general physician care you might pay your doctor $100 a month and he in turns sees you when you need to be seen. For hospital care you would pay the hospital of our choice $100 a month and if you ever needed hospitalization they would admit you and so on.
Such a change would have a dramatic impact in how we pay for healthcare and how we shop for healthcare. The biggest impact would be that the government would no longer be buying healthcare direct from big money providers. (Here is one example of a subscription based doctor service LINK )
We would thank the republicans 10 years from now for doing this.
One thing the democrats should like about such a pricing system is that it makes it easy to define medicaid cost (assuming we move medicaid to the same system) and coverage. If in Louisiana doctor office subscriptions are available for a family of 4 for $200 a month we can decide how of that $200 the poor should pay and how much we will subsidize them to buy that care.
Now is not the time to be timid. We don't need ObamaCare light. The entire nation expects a change---go for it. Go big or go home.
I don't like medicaid but the people that are on it can't buy insurance the way we price healthcare now.
We have single payer in medicare. It is the main reason healthcare cost have expanded far faster than inflation for more than two decades now. We have to end the practice of the government being a direct buyer of health care services. That power creates the bribes from lobbyists for the providers that raise all our cost.
We should change medicare to a voucher based plan that will pay for subscriptions to health providers. Instead of having the government pay providers directly, medicare recipients would get voucher to use to pay for subscriptions to health service providers. This pricing model is beginning to pop up in a few places across the country. For example, for general physician care you might pay your doctor $100 a month and he in turns sees you when you need to be seen. For hospital care you would pay the hospital of our choice $100 a month and if you ever needed hospitalization they would admit you and so on.
Such a change would have a dramatic impact in how we pay for healthcare and how we shop for healthcare. The biggest impact would be that the government would no longer be buying healthcare direct from big money providers. (Here is one example of a subscription based doctor service LINK )
We would thank the republicans 10 years from now for doing this.
One thing the democrats should like about such a pricing system is that it makes it easy to define medicaid cost (assuming we move medicaid to the same system) and coverage. If in Louisiana doctor office subscriptions are available for a family of 4 for $200 a month we can decide how of that $200 the poor should pay and how much we will subsidize them to buy that care.
Now is not the time to be timid. We don't need ObamaCare light. The entire nation expects a change---go for it. Go big or go home.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:37 pm to I B Freeman
I was waiting for your take. Thanks.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:40 pm to I B Freeman
Paraphrasing Senator Tom Cotton, but he said too he does not support Ryancare. He made the point that the house and senate should try and pass popular reforms like HSA expansion and interstate health insurance reform and put the Democrats on record for 2018.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:41 pm to I B Freeman
Do you even know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid?
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:42 pm to I B Freeman
Ryan is a cuck. He's not trying to make real changes. We shouldn't be surprised
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:48 pm to I B Freeman
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We should change medicare to a voucher based plan that will pay for subscriptions to health providers.
The first thing we should do to control cost -- and more importantly, to have the U.S. stop subsidizing the rest of the world -- is to pass a law saying that drug companies can't charge any more for drugs in the U.S. than they charge in the other top Western countries.
All of these other countries (see f*cking CANADA) have pricing controls. The result is that we f*cking subsidize their drugs because the drug companies charge us outrageous prices.
You would see drug companies refusing to supply these other countries without some sort of increase in prices. Eventually the prices will settle at a level that saves U.S. citizens a ton in drug costs.
Of course, we all know that that will never happen because Big Pharma and their lobbyist's $$$$$$$$'s will never let that happen.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:51 pm to GumboPot
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Paraphrasing Senator Tom Cotton, but he said too he does not support Ryancare. He made the point that the house and senate should try and pass popular reforms like HSA expansion and interstate health insurance reform and put the Democrats on record for 2018.
This doesn't actually solve any problems in the system.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:51 pm to dantes69
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Do you even know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid?
Yes and both should be subscription based. Did you read the OP?
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:57 pm to MMauler
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Of course, we all know that that will never happen because Big Pharma and their lobbyist's $$$$$$$$'s will never let that happen.
Only defense rivals bigpharma in lobbying spending.
I am not for price controls but I am for big changes in the FDA and for changes in patent law for existing compounds (not new compounds--I am ok with the patent law on those--I don't like this patent and patent like treatment new uses of old compounds get.)
The FDA is a big barrier to entry for competition in the drug business and we should look at the agency from that point of view and make changes.
We should also relax our prescription requirements (if we moved to subscription based health care this wouldn't be such a big deal.) There is no reason to have pay for a doctor's visit to get a prescription of a lot of these old antibiotics and such.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:00 pm to Lou Pai
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This doesn't actually solve any problems in the system.
I honestly very confused by the entire healthcare debate. I don't know who and what to believe.
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