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re: Rover Pipeline spills more than 2 million gallons of drilling fluid one month in.

Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:29 am to
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:29 am to
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Drilling fluid. So basically a mixture of mud (?) and other products that really aren't harmful to the environment.


How do you know that?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59753 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:29 am to
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CelticDog



corporations not countries retardo

you think the us government is putting up the cash?

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:33 am to
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Do you have any suggestions?


For one, they can follow the procedures that they proposed in their fricking permit application.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:34 am to
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I can't imagine that a permanent buried pipeline makes sense to transport drilling fluid, which also isn't really particularly harmful.


I assume they spilled horizontal drilling fluid that was being used in the installation process. The final pipeline will undoubtedly transport Oil or Natural gas.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11117 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:35 am to
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My sister has made
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One of our kids


Makes sense...
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48663 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:35 am to
Is that the same sister you saved from the ruffians with a well placed rock? She should give you some of that money for you efforts.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:36 am to
Because it isn't? Originally the industry used diesel based drilling fluid but the stuff does leak out of the well during operations, so the industry changed over to water based drilling fluid.

The stuff is water, boxite (aka cat litter), and gum/gels (which are in food you eat). Even in the unlikely event this stuff has something harmful to the environment in it, the amount would be miniscule even over this many gallons.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:36 am to
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POST AN MSDS of the drilling fluid? Why are you freaking the frick out if you don't know what the fluid consists of?


Post a copy if all the measures the company promised to take to prevent this, then post what they actually did.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:41 am to
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Because it isn't?
quote:

The stuff is water, boxite (aka cat litter), and gum/gels (which are in food you eat). Even in the unlikely event this stuff has something harmful to the environment in it, the amount would be miniscule even over this many gallons.


The EPA listed Bentonite (fine clay) as being illegally discharged. If it was your pond they dumped in, I'm sure you would feel differently.

I just don't think we should be defending this company. They have an obligation to do better, to keep the heat off of all the other pipeline companies.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:43 am to
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Takes way more balls to make a thread that's against the grain than it takes for someone to call someone a retard on a message board.


Starting a lie takes balls.

Mental note, noted.

fricking over sensitive bitch.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:44 am to
Sure it is disruptive to a pond it gets dumped into. If the company didn't follow safety procedures/regulations then they should be fined or penalized appropriately.

In the end though (1) this isn't going to be some significant environmental issue (the stuff just isn't bad for the environment) and (2) this isn't a valid argument against O&G like some are making it out to be.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:46 am to
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In the end though (1) this isn't going to be some significant environmental issue (the stuff just isn't bad for the environment) and (2) this isn't a valid argument against O&G like some are making it out to be.


I agree with this. But in today's climate, pipeline companies should know better. I would hope they do a better job of self-policing.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:49 am to
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The EPA listed Bentonite (fine clay) as being illegally discharged. If it was your pond they dumped in, I'm sure you would feel differently.

I just don't think we should be defending this company. They have an obligation to do better, to keep the heat off of all the other pipeline companies.


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Do you know why they wet cut brick and block? To keep silica dust down. Same thing here. Go protest the next Whole Foods or Publix you see being built that isn't wet cutting brick or block.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:50 am to
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You want me to come up with a solution to a serious issue so you can tear it apart.

Can you first substantiate that this is a "serious issue"? Thanks.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:53 am to
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There's two sides to these things and one side doubles down that the pipelines are perfectly safe for the environment.
You're confused.
Rover Pipeline is the name of the operation. The drilling and drilling fluid is not a pipeline.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69932 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:56 am to
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knew it was a muddy substance from comments on Reddit and the article, and I knew it was harmless to a certain degree.



No the frick you didn't, or you wouldn't have posted this chicken little bullshite thread.


Just own it, you pussy
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24633 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:01 pm to
Just like you owned that you baselessly accused a poster of trying to sexually assault kids and never owned it? Then I called you out on it and you denied it? Then I went and posted the whole convo and you deflected? I can repost it again unless you're into this "owning" thing now

Edit - you pussy
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:02 pm to
Meet my alter at Sonic, beyotch.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:02 pm to
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Just like you owned that you baselessly accused a poster of sexual assault and never owned it? Then I called you out on it and you denied it? Then I went and posted the whole convo and you deflected? I can repost it again unless you're into this "owning" thing now



Hey big strawman.

Let's repost your OP.

Just admit that you went for the feels and you failed.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24633 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:04 pm to
Maaaan y'all coming out the woodwork to get away from that one and defend your friend :). It's okay I won't call him out.
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