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re: Republicans…You Know Your Party Is Going To Betray You Again, Right? You’ll Get Nothing
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Any President "indistinguishable" from a Democrat
Hillary isn’t indistinguishable from a democrat being that she is one.
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:02 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Hillary isn’t indistinguishable from a democrat being that she is one.
Apparently Trump is indistinguishable from Hillary, per the actually discussion at hand you keep trying to derail.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Apparently Trump is indistinguishable from Hillary, per the actually discussion at hand you keep trying to derail.
Hillary was going to be the president if Trump didn’t run. You said McConnell had a super secret plan in place to flip the court but you can’t tell us how he was going to do that with Hillary as president.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:05 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Hillary was going to be the president if Trump didn’t run.
And Trump is "indistinguishable" from her.
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You said McConnell had a super secret plan in place to flip the court but you can’t tell us how he was going to do that with Hillary as president.
Well MAGA logic isn't logical. I agree.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:07 pm to jrodLSUke
In attempt to seriously derail the discussion....
I don't think we can. Look at the voting numbers of women vs. men of any race or education level. (R) put up Romney and McCain and got their teeth kicked in. They've been doing the same thing to us for decades, and we just lay back and take it, with one prominent exception.
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We can’t change it overnight but we can take a big step in the right direction this November
I don't think we can. Look at the voting numbers of women vs. men of any race or education level. (R) put up Romney and McCain and got their teeth kicked in. They've been doing the same thing to us for decades, and we just lay back and take it, with one prominent exception.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And Trump is "indistinguishable" from her.
Yeah, she would have absolutely given us a flipped court in our favor if she’d won. It was all part of McConell’s super secret plan you can’t tell us about.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:13 pm to LemmyLives
The first problem with being non-Democrat in this country is that you have to recognize you're in the minority nationally.
This mythology that Republicans are the real majority has to die.
They have to mold themselves as the minority party and seize real opportunities (like 2016) when Democrats pushed things too far and create a backlash against the majority.
This mythology that Republicans are the real majority has to die.
They have to mold themselves as the minority party and seize real opportunities (like 2016) when Democrats pushed things too far and create a backlash against the majority.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:14 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Yeah, she would have absolutely given us a flipped court in our favor if she’d won.
That was the argument being made, effectively.
Again, MAGA logic isn't really logical. You seem to be agreeing without realizing you joined the actual discussion finally.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That was the argument being made, effectively.
No, I responded to you making the argument that McConnell had a plan in place to flip the court before Trump even decided to run. You made this argument out of TDS and can’t back up how McConnell’s plan was supposed to actually work.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:20 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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I responded to you making the argument that McConnell had a plan in place to flip the court before Trump even decided to run
I mean that's a factual statement. He's been working with the Federalist Society on this before 2015.
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You made this argument out of TDS
No. I made this argument to show how McConnell is not "indistinguishable" from DEMs, which was the literal point I was replying to. Look I'll re-quote what I was responding to, since reading is hard.
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I really dgaf about the window dressing of a “majority” that is indistinguishable from a minority.
So all your argument is doing is calling Trump a Democrat. I've tried to let you backtrack and admit your folly, but you want to quadruple down on the sentiment.
So, glad to know you're on record saying Trump is "indistinguishable" from a Democrat. I'll be sure to bring this up when you're trying to sound smart in the future.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
is the process through establishing principles and sticking to them?
But, not far enough. Blacks, Latinos and Muslims are hardcore against non traditional sex (trans in schools, etc.) Yet, the voting rates for all of those for (D) are overwhelming. Whitmer still got re-elected, which was one of my indicators I should just have a stroke and die. Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Pennsylvania are safe for (D). So what now?
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Democrats pushed things too far
But, not far enough. Blacks, Latinos and Muslims are hardcore against non traditional sex (trans in schools, etc.) Yet, the voting rates for all of those for (D) are overwhelming. Whitmer still got re-elected, which was one of my indicators I should just have a stroke and die. Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Pennsylvania are safe for (D). So what now?
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I mean that's a factual statement. He's been working with the Federalist Society on this before 2015.
So which republican president was he going to be working with that was going to help him execute this plan if, as by your own admission, he had this plan in place before Trump even announced? Because, none of the people who were under belief at the time would win the nomination were going to beat Hillary in the general.
None of this super secret plan you think McConnell had for flipping SCOTUS was even possible without a Trump victory.
But I forgot, you think Trump is just a democrat like Hillary, even though he gave you a court you’d have never gotten under Hillary.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:27 pm to LemmyLives
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But, not far enough. Blacks, Latinos and Muslims are hardcore against non traditional sex (trans in schools, etc.) Yet, the voting rates for all of those for (D) are overwhelming. Whitmer still got re-elected, which was one of my indicators I should just have a stroke and die. Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Pennsylvania are safe for (D). So what now?
You’re not considering that 98% of the country is nowhere near as politically aware and informed as we are in this board. Most people have no idea who their members of congress are. They vote for who their respective community influences support.
Most people simply do not give a shite. Sad but true.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:28 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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But I forgot, you think Trump is just a democrat like Hillary,
That's your argument, within this discussion
My argument was specifically to distinguish McConnel (and by proxy, Trump) from being a Democrat.
This isn't complicated. Try to keep up.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's your argument
No, I’m responding to your asinine assertion that the Supreme Court flip happens without Trump because McConnell had some super secret plan that you can’t tell us about.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:30 pm to Indefatigable
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You’re not considering that 98% of the country is nowhere near as politically aware and informed as we are in this board. Most people have no idea who their members of congress are. They vote for who their respective community influences support.
Most people simply do not give a shite. Sad but true.
This is correct. This is a major reason why the DEMs investment in specific institutions (media, academia, tech) have paid such dividends. The can soundboard their ideas/arguments throughout the portion of society that is somewhat malleable quite easily.
The scary part for Republicans is that this was such a wise investment, that they're overtaking other institutions the GOP had invested in. I mean even church and the suburbs aren't automatically pro-GOP anymore.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:32 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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McConnell had some super secret plan that you can’t tell us about.
The plan was to wait until a Republican won and go ham, which he did. Trump just happened to be the guy who Mitch used as his pawn.
Same with the tax cuts they got passed (they always have a new tax cut bill draft waiting for a Republican victory. It's a right of passage).
Trump was replaceable in this plan. McConnell was not. Romney, Rubio, Cruz, Rand, etc. would have all worked.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The plan was to wait until a Republican won and go ham
LOL
Ok, so McConnell’s awesome plan was to wait 4-8 years of Hillary’s term and then somehow flip the court she’d already stacked in the left’s favor?
You are actually just dumb enough to believe this
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:38 pm to LuckyTiger
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You’ll Get Nothing
Not true - we'll definitely get something. Something as government funded caskets with the remains of our sons and daughters killed in an assortment of nasty regional conflicts. Think Viet Nam. Yep, the more things change the more they stay the same.
Remember this my fellow citizens of this once great Republic, at some point there is a going to be 'one incident' that will trigger a full confrontation with Russia. Once the emotion of war gets ahold of people, there's no stopping the insanity.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the reason the UniParty-Democrat-Globalist-Warmongering crowd detest Donald Trump. His "America First" iniative does not sit well with the profiteers waiting in the shadows to move in to exploit the resources of a vanquished country. Greed is a terrible scourge.
To the victor goes the spoils of war.
War is punishment for sin - St. Mother Teresa of Calcutta
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 7:59 am
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:38 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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so McConnell’s awesome plan was to wait until 4-8 years after Hillary
He lasted through 6+ years of Obama. I'm sure he'd have waited longer.
He's a Senator. He's not God. He can only create a strategy based on opportunity that fate may provide in the future. That's how life works.
That's how life works, generally. If you're still upset, take it up with your god(s).
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