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re: Report: Christians were the most persecuted group of people in 2016
Posted on 1/1/17 at 9:49 am to KeyserSoze999
Posted on 1/1/17 at 9:49 am to KeyserSoze999
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But "secular" government doesn't have an origin of influence, right? "Secularist" come out of the womb and home completely impartial. Thank the Lord Jesus for those "secularist" with no agenda.
What's your point? That we should continue sanctioning the Christian agenda because secularists might also have an agenda?
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Posted on 1/1/17 at 9:50 am to cajunangelle
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ObamaCare vs. Little Sisters of the Poor - WSJ
I'm vehemently against Obamacare, but if your best example of Christian persecution is "no, but seriously, you have to follow the same laws as everyone else", you're not being persecuted.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 9:50 am to cajunangelle
while i agree with the LSotP in that case, it's still a micro example
also it's intellectually dishonest to suggest that the ACA, which is terrible, was primarily enacted to attack Christianity. i seriously doubt that motivation existed at all when the bill was crafted, shoved down our throats, etc.
also it's intellectually dishonest to suggest that the ACA, which is terrible, was primarily enacted to attack Christianity. i seriously doubt that motivation existed at all when the bill was crafted, shoved down our throats, etc.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
just saying if you wipe out Christian influences, you replace them with other enfluences, often more restricting and devisive.Posted on 1/1/17 at 9:52 am to KeyserSoze999
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just saying if you wipe out Christian influences, you replace them with other enfluences, often more restricting and devisive.
are you limiting these other influences to other religions?
the entire point of a limited, secular government is to remove any threat of this potential "replacement"
Posted on 1/1/17 at 10:03 am to Joshjrn
Well for one the secular agenda isn't any "better" than the so called Christians agenda. Government is about placing restrictions, the origin of those restrictions can be debated, but the presumption that secularism has the right answers when it's derived from peeps that have a vendetta against Christianity is dishonest. I have to get ready for church, btw, Calvary SW Denver, if your interested in getting ur mind right.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 10:06 am to TheRodFather
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I wonder why people aren't clamoring to bring in Christian refugees like they are Muslim?
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Posted on 1/1/17 at 10:28 am to KeyserSoze999
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Well for one the secular agenda isn't any "better" than the so called Christians agenda. Government is about placing restrictions, the origin of those restrictions can be debated, but the presumption that secularism has the right answers when it's derived from peeps that have a vendetta against Christianity is dishonest. I have to get ready for church, btw, Calvary SW Denver, if your interested in getting ur mind right.
At least the secular agenda will be something new to try. I already know I don't like the Christian agenda. I mean, isn't that what all of the Trump voters were saying? Try the devil you don't know yet?
Anyway, if I get bored, I'll read my copy of the Bible again to remind myself why I'm not a Christian anymore
Posted on 1/1/17 at 10:53 am to Joshjrn
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"no, but seriously, you have to follow the same laws as everyone else", you're not being persecuted.
So a law requiring everyone to eat pork wouldn't be bigotry against Jews and Muslims, because it applies to everyone?
Posted on 1/1/17 at 10:57 am to Bestbank Tiger
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So a law requiring everyone to eat pork wouldn't be bigotry against Jews and Muslims, because it applies to everyone?
It would depend entirely on why it was enacted.
If it was enacted because frick those Jews and Muslims, sure. If it was enacted because aliens infected the world with a parasite that turned people into murderous werewolves and the only antidote was found in pork flesh, no.
This post was edited on 1/1/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 1/1/17 at 11:01 am to Joshjrn
We have to eat pork, or at least pay for it. Even if muslims and Jews don't agree with it on religious grounds, they don't have to eat it, just pay for it.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 11:03 am to Joshjrn
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Christians claiming persecution in the United States are full of shite.
Not compared to other places in the world, true.
Christians here would like to keep it that way. So might as well take present steps to defend and preserve.
Easier now than starting AFTER the barbarians are inside the gate.
This post was edited on 1/1/17 at 11:46 am
Posted on 1/1/17 at 11:04 am to Joshjrn
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We're simply saying that Christians claiming persecution in the United States are full of shite.
If minorities, gays, muslims, tansgenderqueershemalevendingmachine, etc... are claiming "persecution", then Christians should be able to say the same no?
This post was edited on 1/1/17 at 11:05 am
Posted on 1/1/17 at 11:06 am to dcrews
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If minorities, gays, muslims, tansgenderqueershemalevendingmachine, etc... are claiming "persecution", then Christians should be able to say the same no?
If it's true, sure.
But when Christians claim persecution because gay people now have the same legal protections that Christians have always enjoyed, you lose credibility.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 11:19 am to cajunangelle
OP, I'm not sure if the point of this thread was to draw parallels to the US or not. That's certainly what it devolved into quickly.
But if not, I would encourage anyone who really cares about the issue of Christian persecution around the world to support Voice of The Martyrs. They do good work.
Voice of the Martyrs
But if not, I would encourage anyone who really cares about the issue of Christian persecution around the world to support Voice of The Martyrs. They do good work.
Voice of the Martyrs
Posted on 1/1/17 at 11:29 am to Joshjrn
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If it was enacted because aliens infected the world with a parasite that turned people into murderous werewolves and the only antidote was found in pork flesh, no.
Well, then that doesn't apply. If someone who works for an order of nuns has to take responsibility for her own lifestyle choices there is no harm to public safety.
Should conscientious objectors be imprisoned? What was the correct decision in Gobitis v Minersville?
Posted on 1/1/17 at 11:31 am to Joshjrn
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If it's true, sure.
My point was, no one in this country is truly persecuted.
It's "first world social problems".
"Omg, a bakery won't bake a cake for my gay wedding!!!"
versus
"Hey, my family was killed this morning because of their religious beliefs"
Minorities, gays, etc.. or not truly persecuted in this country.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 11:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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also it's intellectually dishonest to suggest that the ACA, which is terrible, was primarily enacted to attack Christianity. i seriously doubt that motivation existed at all when the bill was crafted, shoved down our throats, etc.
Agree, but same dishonesty to suggest it wasn't a hell of a fantastic perk to the assholes who crafted the legislation.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 11:34 am to cajunangelle
The Church has always blossomed the most under persecution.
Posted on 1/1/17 at 11:36 am to dcrews
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Minorities, gays, etc.. or not truly persecuted in this country.
I would be inclined to agree with you now. However, prior to Lawrence v. Texas and Obergefell v. Hodges, I would have disagreed.
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