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Repeal of ACA too fast?

Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:51 pm
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22501 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:51 pm
Wondering. The Senate passed a repeal bill last night. The House is poised to do much the same. If the two bills pass concurrently before 1/20 and are essentially the same, would they be obligated to send this to BHO before he leaves office for his signature or his Veto? Because we all know he would veto.

Anybody know?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45215 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:52 pm to
Even if he did they could simply resend the bill
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22501 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:57 pm to
Resend isn't guaranteed. Not even sure that is possible.

Other ideas out there?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45215 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:59 pm to
What the hell do you mean?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71595 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:00 pm to
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Repeal of ACA too fast?


It's over 6 years past due.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35022 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:02 pm to
Can't happen quick enough. I don't wanna pay this stupid arse penalty
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:04 pm to
What I'd like to know is what is the effective date of the repeal?

Is it effective the day the President signs it or is it like congress frequently does with tax bills and assigns a future date for the repeal to go into effect, for example, January 1, 2018?
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4965 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:08 pm to
This may be one last big LOL at barry afore the little community organizer leaves office.
Posted by maine82
Member since Aug 2011
3320 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:21 pm to
Most big legislation is a multi-staged process. Preliminary legislation has to be drafted in order to attach something to a budget resolution later on. I suspect that's what the vote was about.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71049 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:24 pm to
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Even if he did they could simply resend the bill


Are you sure? I thought if they failed to override it was dead for the current Congress. They'd have to pass a different bill.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

It's over 6 years past due.


thats odd, why havent republicans been working on either tweaking it or some form of replacement in those 6 years. I mean they had to try and repeal and fight it over 150 times in those 6 years but never made even a suggestion as to making it better.

are they not smart enough to come up with something. Because now that thye can repeal, they still dont have a plan to replace it....

all we get to hear is 'it will be beautiful, wonderful'
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71595 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

why havent republicans been working on either tweaking it or some form of replacement in those 6 years


Why should they? Repeal doesn't require either.

quote:

they still dont have a plan


They don't need one.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71049 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

never made even a suggestion as to making it better.


Completely false. Price introduced a comprehensive bill in 2015. The House passed the Keep Your Health Plan Act in 2013 only to have it die in Harry Reid's desk drawer. The Republican Study Committee proposed massive tax deductions for individual plans, offset by ending that write off for employers.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6935 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:39 pm to
They aren't repealing Obamacare.

They are failing to fund it.

So all the laws about pre-existing conditions and level of care are still law.

Will be great to see them explain that one.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:40 pm to
Am I going to have to pay the penalty on my taxes this year?

Who is going to enforce that fine once Obamacare is gone
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71595 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

They aren't repealing Obamacare.


Like I said, you're going to be very disappointed.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35022 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:00 pm to
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They are failing to fund it.


Yeah, us young and healthy who are being penalized and forced to subsidize the old, infirm, and unhealthy, are refusing to fund it. Whether or not the govt passes or repeals anything, Obamacare will fail.

More and more people like me are saying frick this shite and choosing the penalty over the ridiculous prices we are forced to pay.
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