re: Renewable energy becoming so cheap US will meet Paris commitments even if Trump withdraws

"Renewable" energy is the biggest lie out there

Either killing bald eagles with wind mills or making ecological nightmares with nasty lithium mining and disposal

We already have a clean safe unlimited source of energy, it's called fossil fuels

Make America roll coal again baw

But Hollywood said pullimg out was going to destroy the world

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Renewable energy becoming so cheap US will meet Paris commitments even if Trump withdraws

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Trump just can't stop winning.

Renewable energy will not be cheaper in your lifetime without government(taxpayer) subsidies.

The US gets only around 12% of it's energy from renewable sources today and those sources all cost more than fossil fuels.

Furthermore, it will take between 12 and 20 millions of acres of land to support solar and wind and the rich libs don't want wind or solar plants in their back yards.

Plus the Enviro wackos will never let anyone completely cover all of the US deserts because that might wipe out a beetle.

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I've come to believe that the whole environmental/agw movement is just a tactic in the broader strategy of the Far Left to manufacture their vision of 'one-world-equality'; transferring the wealth of the USA through the Paris Accord is one element of that tactic.

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as with many liberal-progressive movements, there is a large degree of hidden Marxism involved under the surface

just ask yourself this: how many primarily progressive movements don't include some sort of property transfer?

the closest i can think of off the top of my head is criminal justice reform, but that's a libertarian position much more than a progressive one. they kind of absorbed a few aspects of it to suck it into the umbrella

So why did all the progressive totalitarians lose their shite about this?

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Renewable energy will not be cheaper in your lifetime without government(taxpayer) subsidies.

The US only around 12% of it's energy from renewable sources today and those sources all cost more than fossil fuels.

Furthermore, it will take between 12 and 20 millions of acres of land to support solar and wind and the rich libs don't want wind or solar plants in their back yards.

Plus the Enviro wackos will never let anyone completely cover all of the US deserts because that might wipe out a beetle.

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That^

Then what are you crying about you insufferable dick smoker?

So we get the benefit without transferring billions to other countries?

I couldn't care less about the SOURCE of my energy. I only care about its affordability and in certain applications its portability.

Affordable is actual cost! Subsidies do not lower costs, it just transfers payment from consumers to taxpayers! If wind turbines create cheaper electricity than natural gas, great. Chop a few birds up for me!

If my car can run cheaper on fermented ground hog droppings than gasoline, then I'll run my car on rodent doodoo!

My main issues with solar are:
1- False cheapness from government welfare. Subsidies aren't free!
2- Real pollution, (not CO2 that puppies and babies exhale with every breath) the stuff that will kill you dead, that is produced in China to make "cheap" solar cells!
3- Dependability. Only 50% of time in any location has daylight on average in the year. And only a few hours of sunshine at good angles. What about night? Burn back up fossil fuels, or use expensive and extremely polluting (the kill you dead kind-not the CO2 bisons exhale) batteries? What about storm damage like wind, hail, and lightning. What about clouds, overcast, and fog. Snow and ice suck. Dust and grim naturally impair output. These not only determine dependability but also costs! Bird shite and leaves can be a hassle as well. I have to wash bird shite off my car weekly; would really hate to pull the old ladder out and go on the roof with old rags and windex.
4- Return on investment. How long will it take to turn a profit (subsidize interest rates are just personal or corporate welfare)? What are the maintenance costs? What are the repair cost of normal storm breakage? What is the useful lifespan before replacement cost are generated!

Now as far as the Paris Accord, this was just a Obama money transfer boondoggle like Solyndra! Fortunately, Trump prevented our hard earned money from being transferred in some kind of international welfare plan!

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