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re: Remember when Israel gave back Gaza?

Posted on 12/28/16 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 3:54 pm to
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This is why the Israel/Palestine situation is so misunderstood - history is twisted and people are brainwashed.


Truth.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16777 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 4:26 pm to
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Terrorism doesn't make Israel stronger


Iron dome and other missile defenses? The sirens & drills? Cross border raids that occur as a result?

All of those things strengthen their military readiness and resolve.

Where the world disagrees with Israel is they see it as "occupied" land where the settlement are occurring. In fact, that's even the UN position and Israel disagrees, as do I.

The reason for this is because the UN sees the 6 day war as an Israeli offensive which is complete BS, particularly in the West Bank and Golan Heights: Israel was attacked by Syria and Jordan who was looking to capitalize on Isreals engagement with Egypt.

My personal thought is the world should no longer see it as occupied land that must be returned. It was taken in unprovoked defense.
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 4:27 pm
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16777 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 4:30 pm to
Furthermore, think about the implications of this decision that you can attack a country but you are not at risk for return invasion because they will have to give your land back to you if you lose.

That's not how war works. You don't get participation trophies when you lose. You risk losing your country. That's how it should be to decentivize war.
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 4:34 pm to
Let's start with your land. You good with that?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67214 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 4:38 pm to
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I can own a plot my whole life and never visit it.


Very true. Many do.

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If someone steals that plot and refuses my return, this is a crime.


It depends on how long they were there before you tried to get them to leave. The onus is on the landowner to make sure squatters aren't stealing their property. If you don't catch people stealing your land for 30 years, that's considered to be your fault.

If it's under a year, you can kick them off, no questions asked. If it's after one year, they can file a possessory action, which would put the burden of proof on you to prove that the land is yours in order to evict them. If you can do so, you can get a court order to evict them.

If you attempt to kick them off after 10 years, as long as they had some sort of legitimate claim to the land, it's theirs. They can now file a petitory action to enforce their right against you. However, if they knew it wasn't theirs, and they had no claim to it, you can go through a petitory action, prove your claim, and kick them off.

If you waited 30 years, however, you're f*&ked. Even if they had no claim to it, if they possessed it for 30 years and you never did anything to attempt to evict them, it's not yours anymore, it's theirs. They can enter a petitory action, prove their 30 years of possession, and become the "true owners'. These actions exist to clear titles and keep land in commerce.

Don't forget, though, that decendants can "tack" possession. If their parents possessed for 20 years, and then died, their children (assuming they continue to possess for the next 10 years) can then tack their parents' possession onto theirs to get up to the needed 30.

All of this comes from the Louisiana Civil Code, which virtually mirrors most Civil Law jurisdictions around the world, which includes most of the Middle East (Iraq, Lebanon, Syria), Europe (France, Spain, Italy, Portugal), and Central (Mexico) and South America (Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Columbia).

However, Israel is a Common Law country like most former English Colonies (India, Canada, U.S., South Africa, Ireland). In England and Wales, adverse possession takes 12 years provided certain requirements are met. In most U.S. jurisdictions, 20 years is the norm.

Adverse Possession and squatters rights are an important part of the legal property regime of literally every non-Communist country on earth.
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 4:47 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67214 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 4:40 pm to
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"might makes right" also means that terrorists are right in killing innocent people in order to get what they want.


One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. If people wish to resort to terrorism to get what they want, they should face the consequences. However, every cause is just in the eyes of its believers. The founding fathers of every nation were once considered terrorists.
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