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re: Regarding Lois Lerner's proclamation of innocence and the Fifth Amendment
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:28 am to Decatur
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:28 am to Decatur
quote:Wasn't she subpoenaed?
She chose to show up,
quote:Oxymoron. She committed a crime and she knows it. Take your partisan blinders off.
proclaim innocence and invoke her Fifth Amendment rights.
For once....
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:29 am to Decatur
quote:
I think she's already said that she would do it in that case
She also said that she wouldn't take the fifth today. She also said that she fears for her life.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:29 am to Decatur
Any good lawyer will tell you not to testify even if you have nothing to hide & are completely innocent.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:31 am to Decatur
Did she not provide confidential information to an FEC attorney? If so, she lied under oath during her opening statement.
quote:LINK LINK
“When we spoke last July, you had told us that the American Future Fund had not received an exemption letter from the IRS,” an FEC attorney wrote in a February 2009 e-mail to Lerner.
But Section 6103 of the Internal Revenue Code provides that both “return information” and “taxpayer return information” are strictly confidential. An IRS source tells National Review Online that, within the agency, disclosing the information that Lerner appears to have provided is considered “a violation of Section 6103.”
That’s a felony punishable by up to $5,000 in fines or five years in prison. If found guilty of such a violation, Lerner, who has been on paid administrative leave since May, would also lose her job: “If such offense is committed by any officer or employee of the United States,” the law reads, he shall “be dismissed from office or discharged from employment upon conviction for such offense.”
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:32 am to Tigah in the ATL
quote:Another oxymoron.....
good lawyer
She is a former high-ranking IRS employee who broke the public's trust and "just followed orders" to turn the IRS into a political arm of the Democrat Party.
What she did is the same as how Putin uses the Russian tax authorities to punish his political enemies.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:33 am to Tigah in the ATL
quote:Pretty cold to dis Decatur like that.quote:
She's allowed to give a proclamation of innocencequote:Any good lawyer will tell you not to testify even if you have nothing to hide & are completely innocent.
I'd wouldn't advise her any differently.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:33 am to Tigah in the ATL
quote:
Any good lawyer will tell you not to testify even if you have nothing to hide & are completely innocent.
I disagree. If you are completely innocent you have the advantage over the opposing lawyer in that you KNOW truth that he does not know. You can do more damage to his case during CX than he can do to yours. That assumes you are smart and a really good speaker. Lois Lerner is smart enough to handle the questions... IF she is completely innocent.
Edit... Think Ollie North. He made the Dems questioning him look like total fools.
This post was edited on 3/5/14 at 11:35 am
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:34 am to Bard
quote:
She wants full immunity. If she gets it she will fall on her sword then go home and have a Coke and a smile while thinking about all the favors she can call in now by protecting folks.
This.
She says the buck stops with her if she gets immunity.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:38 am to LSURussian
quote:
She is a former high-ranking IRS employee who broke the public's trust and "just followed orders" to turn the IRS into a political arm of the Democrat Party.
What she did is the same as how Putin uses the Russian tax authorities to punish his political enemies.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. Congrats, Russian!
The fifth amendment was written to protect us, the people, from government. Lerner is the government and she is using the fifth while at the same time having trampled over the peoples rights. May she have honey poured into her vagina and grizzly bears let loose to eat away at it.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:40 am to los angeles tiger
quote:That is a little harsh.........maybe a prison rape instead.......war on women.
May she have honey poured into her vagina and grizzly bears let loose to eat away at it.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:40 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
She chose to provide testimony to Congress under oath. You even cited it earlier.
From Hoag
quote:
She answered some questions, but refused to answer approximately 29, specifically invoking the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Among these 29 questions which she refused to answer on this ground are the eight made the basis for the indictment.
She even went beyond a proclamation of innocence and answered some questions.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:41 am to dante
That's the kindest thing I wish upon her.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:41 am to LSURussian
quote:
Wasn't she subpoenaed?
Correct. I could have phrased that better.
quote:
She committed a crime
What specific crime did she commit?
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:41 am to Zach
quote:
What if they offer her immunity and she still refuses to testify. She may not want her body discovered in Ft. Marcy Park.
This current bunch is more professional than the Clintons.
Her body would NEVER be found.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:43 am to Decatur
quote:So once again, can an accused take the stand, testify in her own defense, then invoke the 5th on cross-examination without being subject to penalty?
She even went beyond a proclamation of innocence and answered some questions.
This post was edited on 3/5/14 at 11:44 am
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:43 am to Godfather1
quote:
Her body would NEVER be found.
She will be swimming with the fishes.Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:46 am to los angeles tiger
quote:
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. Congrats, Russian!
quote:
May she have honey poured into her vagina and grizzly bears let loose to eat away at it.
How have you been?
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:46 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
So once again, can an accused take the stand, testify in her own defense, then invoke the 5th on cross-examination without being subject to penalty?
You know he isn't going to answer that truthfully. He's completely blind in his support for the tyranny he loves.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:47 am to los angeles tiger
quote:Oh no doubt he loves it.
He's completely blind in his support for the tyranny he loves.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:49 am to Bard
quote:
She wants full immunity. If she gets it she will fall on her sword then go home and have a Coke and a smile while thinking about all the favors she can call in now by protecting folks.
If she's truly in fear for her life as she claims to be, she's gonna fall on her sword whether they give her immunity or not. Being alive in prison is far preferable to the alternative.
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