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Rape culture is kind of real
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:20 pm
I am a libertarian, and a Trump fan. So don't start immediately assuming im some feminist social hypocrite.
However; I have seen and heard enough from girls I know to feel rape is not handled responsibly, especially by Universities. My sister was almost raped at UCF, a guy came in the bathroom in time and that guy was arrested. Then let out a week later. Rich parents buy great lawyers. Her friend, was in a sorority(no clue which), got raped at a frat party by three guys. She was told if she reported it, she would be removed from the sorority. She ended up keeping silent and leaving on her own because of pressure from the sorority leaders.
You see it in Hollywood now, you saw it with Clinton, etc. Rape is accepted, if the man has money or power.
As a man I feel my job is always to protect. Crimes like rape and pedophilia are simply unacceptable to me. To harm a woman or child is something a man should be stoned to death for.
Now the stats feminazis toss out are as always outrageously grossed. Its still an actual issue we as a society must address. This isn't like the ridiculously unfounded BLM movement, this has substantially more victims.
Either way just tossing out my opinion. Really wish we as a society found a way to verify rape with absolution, and punish the rapist to a maximum sentence no matter their lawyer.
Now we also must clarify rape and what it is. Ive heard absurd things like cat calling, grabbing a waist, or the most absurd, deciding after sex it wasn't wanted, despite no objection prior..Wtf?
Either way. We can't dismiss the idea of rape being non existent or a small issue. Its more common than a lot would believe, sadly.
Also fake accusers deserve ten years in prison.
However; I have seen and heard enough from girls I know to feel rape is not handled responsibly, especially by Universities. My sister was almost raped at UCF, a guy came in the bathroom in time and that guy was arrested. Then let out a week later. Rich parents buy great lawyers. Her friend, was in a sorority(no clue which), got raped at a frat party by three guys. She was told if she reported it, she would be removed from the sorority. She ended up keeping silent and leaving on her own because of pressure from the sorority leaders.
You see it in Hollywood now, you saw it with Clinton, etc. Rape is accepted, if the man has money or power.
As a man I feel my job is always to protect. Crimes like rape and pedophilia are simply unacceptable to me. To harm a woman or child is something a man should be stoned to death for.
Now the stats feminazis toss out are as always outrageously grossed. Its still an actual issue we as a society must address. This isn't like the ridiculously unfounded BLM movement, this has substantially more victims.
Either way just tossing out my opinion. Really wish we as a society found a way to verify rape with absolution, and punish the rapist to a maximum sentence no matter their lawyer.
Now we also must clarify rape and what it is. Ive heard absurd things like cat calling, grabbing a waist, or the most absurd, deciding after sex it wasn't wanted, despite no objection prior..Wtf?
Either way. We can't dismiss the idea of rape being non existent or a small issue. Its more common than a lot would believe, sadly.
Also fake accusers deserve ten years in prison.
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:24 pm to Gatorbait2008
I see how money and fame has allowed a man like Trump to think he can do what he wants with women.
Too many around him now but he hasn’t lost the taste for a new piece of arse.
Too many around him now but he hasn’t lost the taste for a new piece of arse.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:27 pm to swlaLSUfan
Fake rape accusations that disappeared immediately after election.
Sorry. Don't buy it.
Sorry. Don't buy it.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:32 pm to Gatorbait2008
Well rape is a favorite tool of dems.
Colleges are now bastions of liberal thought.
Colleges are now bastions of liberal thought.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:34 pm to Rougarou13
Agreed. They are more concerned with their numbers.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:39 pm to Gatorbait2008
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Really wish we as a society found a way to verify rape with absolution, and punish the rapist to a maximum sentence no matter their lawyer.
So you want the guy pardoned?
How do you verify rape with forgiveness?
And it's called a court of law and it might not be justice but it's the best we got. You can't prove your case...sorry. This isn't assumption junction.
It's a country founded on that you can't just be accused and punished without confronting your accuser.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:42 pm to Gatorbait2008
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I am a libertarian, and a Trump fan.
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Rape is accepted, if the man has money or power.
How ironic that someone who starts a post claiming to be a fan of Trump (who is on tape bragging about groping women and getting away with it because of his money and power) then goes on to complain about a rape culture perpetuated by the powerful.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:44 pm to Gatorbait2008
quote:So to preempt claims that you're a hypocrite, you use the fact that you're a libertarian and Trump supporter as evidence? It's one thing to have voted for Trump, and like some of his policy ideas that are in line with libertarian ideals (less regulation, lower taxes, etc), but for the most part, Trump's views are not aligned with liberationism, and often completley counter.
I am a libertarian, and a Trump fan. So don't start immediately assuming im some feminist social hypocrite
So that seems more hypocritical than anything else you posted.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:54 pm to Gatorbait2008
I have never seen rape culture.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:09 am to Stingray
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I have never seen rape culture.
Well to be fair if you had MTV in the 2000's...
You kinda saw it...or just girls who didn't give a frick.
Was it rape culture or just STD round-table culture? Hedonism culture? Girl never gonna get married after pics, culture?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:34 am to Globetrotter747
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How ironic that someone who starts a post claiming to be a fan of Trump (who is on tape bragging about groping women and getting away with it because of his money and power) then goes on to complain about a rape culture perpetuated by the powerful.
saying you can do something is a far cry from doing it and there is no evidence that he actually did. the accusers, even with gloria allred willing to stand up for them, disappeared and there is no way trump could make her back off if there was one iota of truth to them. what trump said was vulgar but not a crime. what all these liberal men did is a crime and it is vulgar. you people keep making this strawman argument which just really shows your defence of the indefencable.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:12 am to Zahrim
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saying you can do something is a far cry from doing it and there is no evidence that he actually did. the accusers, even with gloria allred willing to stand up for them, disappeared and there is no way trump could make her back off if there was one iota of truth to them. what trump said was vulgar but not a crime. what all these liberal men did is a crime and it is vulgar. you people keep making this strawman argument which just really shows your defence of the indefencable.
I didn't say Trump committed a crime. The OP referred to a "rape culture" in his post. Do you not think Trump's comments perpetuate the idea that rich and powerful men can more easily get away with sexual misconduct, the very thing the OP admonished right after proclaiming his Trump fandom?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:19 am to Globetrotter747
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How ironic that someone who starts a post claiming to be a fan of Trump (who is on tape bragging about groping women and getting away with it because of his money and power) then goes on to complain about a rape culture perpetuated by the powerful.
So, famous people who get laid because they are famous, are as bad as people who force sex on victims wanting to not have their careers ruined are identical to you?
Every chick that goes backstage with Kendrick Lamar is a rape victim?
Your reasoning is so faulty, it's silly.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:26 am to Gatorbait2008
Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:41 am to buckeye_vol
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It's one thing to have voted for Trump, and like some of his policy ideas that are in line with libertarian ideals (less regulation, lower taxes, etc), but for the most part, Trump's views are not aligned with liberationism, and often completley counter. So that seems more hypocritical than anything else you posted.
Well, to be fair, the other choice was Hillary, the candidate that thinks she is above the law, prefers an all-encompassing government that controls every aspect of people's lives, lies about letting US diplomats & servicemen die, & has a higher body count than any American politician. Only a retarded libertarian would not vote for Trump in that election.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:06 am to Evolved Simian
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So, famous people who get laid because they are famous, are as bad as people who force sex on victims wanting to not have their careers ruined are identical to you? Every chick that goes backstage with Kendrick Lamar is a rape victim? Your reasoning is so faulty, it's silly.
Getting laid because you are famous and thinking you can get away with sexual misconduct because you are famous (which is what the OP was talking about) are two totally different things. Trump bragged about walking up to women and kissing them, grabbing them. I can't say I would be surprised if did that to an unwilling woman a time or two.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 3:18 am to Gatorbait2008
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Rape culture is kind of real
... eh...
As far as I know, rape culture is two things:
1) That rape happens
2) That society permits rape to happen
Most of us know that the first statement is true. Raise your hand if you're related to / married to / dated a woman who was sexually assaulted?
As to the second statement? That society permits or allows for rape to occur? Maybe I'm naive, but I just can't see that as being true.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 3:43 am to RuLSU
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As to the second statement? That society permits or allows for rape to occur? Maybe I'm naive, but I just can't see that as being true.
If you consider corporate/business culture as "society", I think it's true. Harvey Weinstein (or for that matter Donald Trump) couldn't abuse dozens of women without many knowing enablers willing to look the other way and abet the behaviors.
What's interesting to me is that conservative antipathy for liberal Hollywood and Democratic donors seems to create a space for some people who'd otherwise dismiss them to categorically condemn behaviors that they previously have ignored or excused repeatedly. For example, the pattern of abuse within Fox News was just as chronic and more widespread than in this story but was generally ignored or dismissed by means of victim-blaming. Likewise, when Trump threatened to sue ~10 women who accused him of abuse after the Access Hollywood Tape came out, also crickets and victim-blaming.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 3:50 am
Posted on 10/13/17 at 3:54 am to swlaLSUfan
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money and fame
speaking as a woman, you think he had a hard time attracting women based on the above? if you do, you over estimate women.
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a man like Trump to think he can do what he wants
and yet not one time prior to his running for President has one of the many women he's been involved with or been around has said he "got away" with anything or was disrespectful to them.
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but he hasn’t lost the taste for a new piece of arse.
that's the kind of response i'd expect from a weak arse snowflake. Alphas will always be attracted to and desire women.
Now, head back over to your Twitter and virtue signal to alleviate your guilt.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 4:31 am to Gatorbait2008
I’ve never been in an environment where rape was even a little bit acceptable. I don’t think I live in a rape culture like they have out in Hollywood.
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