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re: Rand Paul = Democrats’ Enemy #1
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:07 am to Rickety Cricket
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:07 am to Rickety Cricket
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He's the GOP's only viable option.
What about Sarah Palin.?
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:07 am to goatmilker
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They just feast off our teat, dictate our foreign policy, and subvert democracy.
Are we talking about all the arab countries of the region who also get our aid and money?
If the Arab countries were running our foreign policy it would look a lot different than it looks today. As a matter of fact, there would have never been an oil embargo in the 1970's because we would have already klcked Israel to the curb.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:09 am to ocelot4ark
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Those frickers do NOT have our best interests at heart
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dictate our foreign policy
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:11 am to trackfan
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If the Arab countries were running our foreign policy it would look a lot different than it looks today
Agree
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:12 am to BugAC
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:13 am to goatmilker
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Agree
That's what happens when you place religious ideology above equal protection and rights for everyone. But it's cool for Christians to do it.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:18 am to ocelot4ark
The Saudi govt is in bed with Israel's gov't.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:20 am to Rickety Cricket
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He's the GOP's only viable option.
Maybe. However as Rome burns on the foreign policy front under the current administration the electorate could be in the mood for a more hawkish candidate 24 months from now.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:25 am to GumboPot
Hope not as far as electing a hawk goes.
As to the "rome burning" your intrest would depend if you are a resident or ally of Rome as to whether you cared it was burning at all.
I think we are seeing that the world is ALWAYS burning and we tire of the excuse.
I'm not a isolationist but we are everywhere and in places I don't want to be.
As to the "rome burning" your intrest would depend if you are a resident or ally of Rome as to whether you cared it was burning at all.
I think we are seeing that the world is ALWAYS burning and we tire of the excuse.
I'm not a isolationist but we are everywhere and in places I don't want to be.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:33 am to RollTide4Ever
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The Saudi govt is in bed with Israel's gov't.
What are you talking abou? The Saudis don't even recognize Israel. Don't think for one minute that just because they both feel threatened by political Islam that they are firends.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:39 am to RollTide4Ever
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The Saudi govt is in bed with Israel's gov't.
I wish more people understood that.
And it's not necessarily the Saudi gov't but the Saudi rulers.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:08 am to Buckeye Backer
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The irony in this post is that not only is he Democrats biggest enemy, he is the Republicans biggest enemy!!! Just wait until the campaign begins. Republicans will tear him apart because he is too much like the President in foreign policy! A guy who draws hate from both sides, well that sounds good to me! Rand Paul 2016!!
Holy shite, one of the few BB posts I agree with
. But yes, I'm glad Rand is pissing off both parties.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:12 am to CherryGarciaMan
FYI, here's a link to an op-ed by Saudi Prince Turki Al Faisal regarding Gaza from a couple of weeks ago, which is not exactly an endorsement for Israel.
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Keep in mind that up until about seven years ago, Saudi Arabia and Egypt were Hamas' biggest sponsors. Then Iran began to woo Hamas, and Hamas became insubordinate to their Sunni sponsors which caused the Saudis and Egyptians to cut them loose. Of course this didn't bother Hamas since Iran picked up the slack. And then the Arab Spring spread to Syria, and the Iranians ordered Hezbollah and Hamas to support Assad. Hezbollah followed orders but Hamas balked, and so once again Hamas got cut off for insubordination right about the time Morsi was elected, which meant that Hamas felt they no longer needed the Iranians anyway. Finally, Morsi was overthrown by General Al-Sisi's coup, and Hamas found itself cut off from both their Sunni sponsors in Cairo and Riyadh and their Shiite sponsors in Tehran. Now all they're left with is Turkey and Qatar, who are limited in the aid they can provide since Al-Sisi isn't turning a blind eye to the tunnels like Mubarak and Morsi did. And that's the cliff notes version of how Hamas got themselves in the bind they're in today. I wish the U.S. would treeat Israel's insubordination the same way the Muslim states treat Hamas' insubordination.
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Keep in mind that up until about seven years ago, Saudi Arabia and Egypt were Hamas' biggest sponsors. Then Iran began to woo Hamas, and Hamas became insubordinate to their Sunni sponsors which caused the Saudis and Egyptians to cut them loose. Of course this didn't bother Hamas since Iran picked up the slack. And then the Arab Spring spread to Syria, and the Iranians ordered Hezbollah and Hamas to support Assad. Hezbollah followed orders but Hamas balked, and so once again Hamas got cut off for insubordination right about the time Morsi was elected, which meant that Hamas felt they no longer needed the Iranians anyway. Finally, Morsi was overthrown by General Al-Sisi's coup, and Hamas found itself cut off from both their Sunni sponsors in Cairo and Riyadh and their Shiite sponsors in Tehran. Now all they're left with is Turkey and Qatar, who are limited in the aid they can provide since Al-Sisi isn't turning a blind eye to the tunnels like Mubarak and Morsi did. And that's the cliff notes version of how Hamas got themselves in the bind they're in today. I wish the U.S. would treeat Israel's insubordination the same way the Muslim states treat Hamas' insubordination.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:13 am to a want
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It's also a problem for establishment GOP.
RReading this makes me happy. I'm a conservative.
I always feel like dems can't do the same when something threatens their party. They treat it more like their favorite football team. Is that fair to say?
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 10:14 am
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:19 am to GumboPot
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However as Rome burns on the foreign policy front under the current administration the electorate could be in the mood for a more hawkish candidate 24 months from now.
just going to point out that we have been fricked FP now for coming up on 15 years. Bush was fricking horrible.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:30 am to GumboPot
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However as Rome burns on the foreign policy front under the current administration the electorate could be in the mood for a more hawkish candidate 24 months from now.
No way.
The media may try and get Hillary elected in order to make that possible, but no way does the public look for more foreign intervention.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:31 am to a want
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This is what I've been saying. If he can maintain discipline, he has a shot.
The biggest political weapon a candidate has is the ability to brush off the negative, any negative, and move forward.
Rand has that. He'll be president in 2016. GOP will cave, they just want a win
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:34 am to ItNeverRains
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The biggest political weapon a candidate has is the ability to brush off the negative, any negative, and move forward.
Rand has that. He'll be president in 2016. GOP will cave, they just want a win
No, the biggest weapon a candidate has is a grass roots organization. This is how elections are won and lost. in the trenches. its the offensive and defensive line in politics.
Will rand paul inherit his father's rabid fanbase? Can he tap into the Tea Party organizers? can he get them to STFU on social shite? If so, he could destroy any democrat.
We do know that someone is going to inherit obama's grassroots organization. Not sure if that is HRC or biden or someone else.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:35 am to ocelot4ark
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That's what happens when you place religious ideology above equal protection and rights for everyone. But it's cool for Christians to do it.
Christians may push for laws that reflect their views, but i fail to see where anything close to that example exists in modern christian societies
i'm willing to wait for your examples
note: i am not religious
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:37 am to GumboPot
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the electorate could be in the mood for a more hawkish candidate 24 months from now.
theoretically possible, but i think it's much more likely that we're just war weary. the syria opposition was major
this reaction to our ally getting into a war is a symptom of war weariness...we don't even have to get in a war to have people protest
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