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re: Racism in America and how do we compare to other countries
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:47 pm to Navytiger74
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:47 pm to Navytiger74
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What other countries has someone of other race on their cabinet much well someone of different race/ethnicity/religion running the entire show?
Is there any other country that compares to the U.S.?
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You guys are relentless.
quote:You're right.
Navytiger74
He left the US Navy off that list.
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:10 pm to DosManos
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Wasn't Stockholm engulfed in race riots a couple of years ago?
Does Sweden have a more shameful history than the U.S. when it comes to its treatment of non-Whites?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:11 pm to Zach
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No
Now you're starting to remind me of Al Sharpton.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:17 pm to ballscaster
quote:quote:All you have to do is look up the word "are" in order to realize that I was talking about neither the past nor the future.
"Past history" is what this entire thread is about. We can only speculate about the future.
You also used the phrase "in the history of the world". Obviously your use of the word "are" was based on historical events which is the only criteria we can use to judge the character of a nation, or a person too for that matter. Why do you think banks and landlords look at people's history to judge their current character?
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:29 pm to trackfan
quote:Nope. Not a chance.
Does Sweden have a more shameful history than the U.S. when it comes to its treatment of non-Whites?
Their slaves were of course predominately white.
Moving forward to present day, skin color plays a decisive role in an individual’s opportunities in the Swedish labor market.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:10 pm to SmackDaniels
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I never said this is or implied it.
You are not implying that since the President is .5 black, it proves that America is less racist than if the President was white?
I am confused because you talk about racism in the title, then give the color of the president and some demographic stats as if it was proof of something.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 3:12 am to Zach
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Correct. And things are getting worse there with Muslim immigrants.
In Germany??
No. I lived there for 2 years. Most the turkish people have been there for 2 or 3 generations.
The immigration problem in most of western europe is people coming from eastern europe. Not turks,arabs etc.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 3:13 am
Posted on 12/19/14 at 3:18 am to SmackDaniels
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Australia
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by far away the most accepting people.
are racist as shite
Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:12 am to trackfan
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but the Scandanavian countries all have better histories than the U.S. when it comes to dealing with non-White people.
by excluding them from their culture entirely?
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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by excluding them from their culture entirely?
Who did they exclude? Please be specific?
I'm sure third world people over the last 500 years preferred the Scandanaians who left them the hell alone, than the Europeans to the south of them who went all over the world wreaking havoc.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:26 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Correct. And things are getting worse there with Muslim immigrants. In Germany?? No. I lived there for 2 years. Most the turkish people have been there for 2 or 3 generations. The immigration problem in most of western europe is people coming from eastern europe. Not turks,arabs etc.
Hey, take it up with the WSJ. I read a big feature article about Dresden last week. Massive demonstrations by Germans. 1,000s protesting non-Turkish Muslims who have just recently immigrated and refuse to assimilate.
Huge signs saying "We want Germany back".
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:29 am to trackfan
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I'm sure third world people over the last 500 years preferred the Scandanaians who left them the hell alone, than the Europeans to the south of them who went all over the world wreaking havoc.
colonizations is a different argument entirely. however, most colonized areas improved their standard of living tremendously and learned superior culture that allowed them to develop post-colonizations.
that's a different argument
go look at the racial demographics of the scandinavian countries. they have so few black people that they don't even typically do a racial breakdown in their demographics. they also have very restrictive immigration and citizenship policies. the US has a much more open border and is much more brown and black. you can't call out the US for being racist when we're much more open in allowing the entry of non-whites. it's pretty illogical to say scandinavia treats minorities better when they won't even allow the free flow of minorities into their society. that's hypocrisy
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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colonizations is a different argument entirely. however, most colonized areas improved their standard of living tremendously and learned superior culture that allowed them to develop post-colonizations.
The idea that European colonialists were deep down benevolent, altruistic humanitarians and not greedy, bloodthirsty White supremacists is absurd. Just look at how Native Americans were treated and how many treaties this country broke with them. The primary motive was never to improve the standard of living of third-world people, but to acquire land and wealth.
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go look at the racial demographics of the scandinavian countries. they have so few black people that they don't even typically do a racial breakdown in their demographics. they also have very restrictive immigration and citizenship policies. the US has a much more open border and is much more brown and black. you can't call out the US for being racist when we're much more open in allowing the entry of non-whites. it's pretty illogical to say scandinavia treats minorities better when they won't even allow the free flow of minorities into their society. that's hypocrisy?
All this relativism and rationalization doesn't change the fact that none of the Scandanavian countries have the shameful history that the US does in its treatment of non-White people, both at home and abroad.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 9:51 am
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:52 am to trackfan
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The idea that European colonialists were deep down benevolent, altruistic humanitarians
where did i say that?
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The primary motive was never to improve the standard of living of third-world people
where did i say this?
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All this relativism and mitigation doesn't change the fact that none of the Scandanavian countries have the shameful history that the US does in its treatment of non-White people, both at home and abroad.
because they have never allowed non-whites into their country
your example of a superior society, with regards to racism, is a xenophobic, insular, mono-cultural society. that's pretty funny.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
i'll put this in another way
in like 30 years, white people will not be the majority population in the US
at the same point, the scandinavian populations will still be over 90% white
in like 30 years, white people will not be the majority population in the US
at the same point, the scandinavian populations will still be over 90% white
Posted on 12/19/14 at 10:15 am to trackfan
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How many Black people do you know who aren't?
Exactly. It's not like black Americans have 100% sub Saharan ancestry. I'm about 90% black, and I don't refer to myself as mixed.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:02 am to trackfan
quote:Again, you're right. They don't.
none of the Scandanavian countries have the shameful history that the US does in its treatment of non-White people
Their slaves were of course predominately white.
Moving forward to present day, skin color plays a decisive role in an individual’s opportunities in the Swedish labor market.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:07 am to SmackDaniels
Did you know, that America was responsible for only 4% of the African slave trade in the world, and Brazil was among the largest traders of African slaves during the 1800's?
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