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re: Prison Population Timeline in the US
Posted on 9/21/17 at 5:42 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 9/21/17 at 5:42 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 5:55 am to AMS
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700% isn't a huge increase?
Yes but 0.007% is a tiny number.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 6:53 am to TheFonz
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:00 am to ElmoHatesMe
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do you beat your wife when your power bill is $107 instead of 100? we're talking about a small percentage of hundreds of millions. no, it's not a big deal. stop breaking the law.
Um. Wow. You probably need to give that another crack
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:07 am to BamaCoaster
quote:Them dirty Mooslems?
Ever wonder why we're STILL in Afghanistan
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:12 am to Ebbandflow
quote:Make money on the front end, selling the drugs....make money on the back end, putting people in prison for drugs.
Pretty clear the crack epidemic and the subsequent war on drugs lead to the explosion.
Or prisons being privatized.
It's about money...It's ALWAYS about money.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:15 am to crazy4lsu
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The prison rates for black people and Hispanic people are the top two in the world and the rates for white people are tied for 9th highest in the world. I'd argue that there is a big problem with over-incarceration in the US. It's a massive problem in my view.
Over incarceration, really? We are either a nation of law and order or we're not. Representatives on both sides of the isle enacted these laws.
Are you suggesting we should not enforce our laws?
I would suggest that we have a lot of unlawful people relative to other countries. Or, our law enforcement system is more efficient.
Truth is, its really not that hard to go through life following the law. Most people accomplish this feat with exception of a traffic violation or some other minor offense.
This is the same as with guns. We don't have a gun problem, we have a people that use guns illegally problem.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 7:16 am
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:19 am to NYNolaguy1
Doesn't take much creativity to realize that identity theft, burglary, vandalism, and rape should be crimes with real punishment.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:22 am to FooManChoo
Per another poster's theory, I don't see the correlation
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 7:25 am
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:27 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Forget prisons. Send them all to Mexico and use the cash savings to big a bigger wall along the border. With a moat.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:28 am to SquirrelyBama
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Am I understanding these graph comparison correctly, so crime is going down because more bad folks are being locked up?
You're correct but it's a little more abstract as far as what kind of country you want to live in. We all love low crime but do we want our country to have the highest incarceration rate in the world? We have less than 5% of the world's population and over 20% of the world's prisoners. That's outlandish. Those numbers make me think we've over-criminalized shite in this country.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 7:33 am
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:13 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
No one knows how to source here?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:46 am to IAmReality
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Pretty clear the crack epidemic and the subsequent war on drugs lead to the explosion.
From 1960-1980 there was a lot of drug use but not that big a jump in jail/prison. It may be because the drugs I saw happening back then were not strongly addictive. There was stuff like marijuana, LSD, speed and downers. No crack or meth. Heroin was around but not widely popular because you had to inject it.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 9:46 am to northshorebamaman
What's your solution?
What if we decriminalize and the crime rate spikes? What then?
What if we decriminalize and the crime rate spikes? What then?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:19 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I wonder how much the prison population would go down over the next ten years with a widespread enacting of capital punishment.
Granted, we'd have to do something about the "can't give consent while drunk." problem or things would get really bad.
Granted, we'd have to do something about the "can't give consent while drunk." problem or things would get really bad.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:40 am to ElmoHatesMe
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do you beat your wife when your power bill is $107 instead of 100? we're talking about a small percentage of hundreds of millions. no, it's not a big deal. stop breaking the law.
No because you just ave an example of a 7% increase not a 700%.
A more apt comparison would be $700 instead of $100.
In any case I will leave the wife beating to the folks like you that never mastered 5th grade math and don't know the difference in 7% and 700%
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:41 am to CoachChappy
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Yes but 0.007% is a tiny number.
We might be doing it wrong
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:43 am to roadGator
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What if we decriminalize and the crime rate spikes? What then?
This argument makes the bold assumptiom that current incarceration is keeping crime "low". Has it ever occured to some that prison is in fact contributing to the crime rate?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:43 am to NYNolaguy1
Which prisoners would you release by ignoring which laws?
How many would that be?
I may agree with you.
How many would that be?
I may agree with you.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:45 am to NYNolaguy1
That's why I asked the question.
What evidence do you have that suggests higher incarceration rates lead to more crime?
I am also open to numbers and not just emotion.
What evidence do you have that suggests higher incarceration rates lead to more crime?
I am also open to numbers and not just emotion.
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