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Price gouging laws predictably lead to shortages

Posted on 8/31/17 at 7:52 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 7:52 am
Which is more compassionate: Allowing a small number of people to hoard a needed item that is purchased at a low price or allowing prices to increase due to demand so that more people can have access to that needed item?

What about the elimination of the profit motive causing people to not work to bring a needed item into an area of need?

Why don't we trust in the free market to do what it does so elegantly?
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 7:56 am
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12904 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 7:55 am to
During times of disaster, human nature expects compassion, not a harsh reality of supply and demand.

This is why even in Texas, politicians are opposed to "price gouging" without defining what level of markup becomes obscene.

Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23730 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 7:57 am to
This makes no sense whatsoever. Price gouging interrupts the market distribution of goods. Having water sitting on the shelf, priced higher than liquid gold, prevents distribution. Price gouging destroys the natural market.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18451 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:00 am to
Actually, it makes a lot of sense. If there is a finite amount of resources, those who need it most will pay the price to get it. Those who don't need it, won't pay for it.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:01 am to
What shortages/issues are houstonians dealing with?
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9045 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Price gouging interrupts the market distribution of goods. Having water sitting on the shelf, priced higher than liquid gold, prevents distribution.


Because we all know that distributors and retailers would price things so high that no one will buy them...

That's surely in their best interest
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 8:04 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:05 am to
Gas
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18075 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Having water sitting on the shelf, priced higher than liquid gold, prevents distribution.


No, it prevents one customer from hoarding it all for himself. He won't/can't pay sky high prices, so he'll be compelled to buy only what he truly needs leaving water for the next customer, and the next.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 8:09 am
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
3673 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:08 am to
What about those who need it but can't afford it?
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 8:09 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:08 am to
quote:

Price gouging laws predictably lead to shortages

I think you mean lack of planning leads to shortages
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9045 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:10 am to
quote:

What about those who need it but can't afford it?


What about those who can afford it, but can't find it?

At best, you're talking about a "six one way, half dozen the other" type of situation.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:11 am to
quote:

 think you mean lack of planning leads to shortages


I think you mean lack of central planning you communist.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22320 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:11 am to
Price gouging is opportunistic. It will come back to haunt the perps. Un-Christian. Prices should remain stable. Even squirrels anticipate shortages and act accordingly. Nobody mentions complacent merchants who fall asleep at the wheel and fail to adequately anticipate shortages and stock up.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22030 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:11 am to
quote:

This makes no sense whatsoever. Price gouging interrupts the market distribution of goods. Having water sitting on the shelf, priced higher than liquid gold, prevents distribution. Price gouging destroys the natural market.





Gouging sucks but I definitely understand the arguments for not intervening too much. Because people will hoard rather than just taking what they can get by with.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:11 am to
quote:

I think you mean lack of central planning you communist.

No dipshit....lack of planning on people's part
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4303 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:12 am to
In certain cases, sure. I would agree with you that price gouging laws have a net negative when it comes to the economy as a whole.

But in the circumstances of a natural disaster, you need them.

I can recall after Katrina some gas stations raising prices to as much as $5.00 a gallon (the average was around $1.5 at the time I think). When people are hit at their most trying time and have just lost everything, the last thing one should do is force them to pay a premium for something as essential in the aftermath of a storm as gas.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 8:13 am
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:12 am to
quote:

Which is more compassionate: Allowing a small number of people to hoard a needed item that is purchased at a low price or allowing prices to increase due to demand so that more people can have access to that needed item?

What about the elimination of the profit motive causing people to not work to bring a needed item into an area of need?

Why don't we trust in the free market to do what it does so elegantly?


Total BS. the price gouging laws allow for price increses due to shortages or the difficulty of getting goods to an area during a disaster. They only come into play when someone is actually gouging by raising the prices by large margins. Like when gas goes from $2.25 a gallon to $20 a gallon between Friday and Monday. Yeah that's the free market at work is it?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:12 am to
quote:

Gas


Because refineries and distribution have been interrupted not because of pricing. And I think most of the stories are overblown. I live in the loop in Houston and as far as goods and services go it's just about back to normal. Nobody is crying for higher prices as they lay starving in a Kroger parking lot.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:13 am to
quote:

What about those who need it but can't afford it?


These guy's idea of the free market often leaves out Humanity. They all want a corporate overlord and are willing to pay for it.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56352 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:14 am to
Wouldn't limiting quantities per customer work. Like the gas stations always put in place?
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