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re: President of Navajo Nation w/ Dan Snyder
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:26 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:26 pm to lsupride87
quote:
As a 5 year old I knew it wasnt wise to call the Native ameircan that came speak to us a Redskin. Maybe i was just really smart
Maybe you were.
I knew as a 5-year-old not to call somebody "stupid." I wouldn't have been shocked if I heard the word "stupid" on TV, just like I wouldn't have been, and am still not shocked, if I hear an announcer say Washington Redskins. As a five-year-old I have been shocked if I heard the "N-Word" on TV, regardless of the context. My point is that you and I are writing the word Redskin in our posts, yet neither of us will actually write out the N-Word. Seems that if they were equivalent, you and I would not write it out. That doesn't mean it's not derogatory, but it doesn't mean it's an equivalent.
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:26 pm to lsupride87
What kind of household did you live in where you heard and understood the term Redskin at the advanced age of 5?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:27 pm to lsupride87
Quit crying
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:28 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:Not crying. Quit being an a-hole.
Quit crying
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:29 pm to Jbird
quote:Just knew that wasnt a nice thing to say. It has been in the dictionary since around 1900 that it was derogatory.
What kind of household did you live in where you heard and understood the term Redskin at the advanced age of 5?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:31 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:I agree they are not equivalent. I did not mean to make it seem like they were. My only point was that it was once a normal word. but became derogatory. It has been in Webters as that since the late 1800s i beleive
I knew as a 5-year-old not to call somebody "stupid." I wouldn't have been shocked if I heard the word "stupid" on TV, just like I wouldn't have been, and am still not shocked, if I hear an announcer say Washington Redskins. As a five-year-old I have been shocked if I heard the "N-Word" on TV, regardless of the context. My point is that you and I are writing the word Redskin in our posts, yet neither of us will actually write out the N-Word. Seems that if they were equivalent, you and I would not write it out. That doesn't mean it's not derogatory, but it doesn't mean it's an equivalent.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:32 pm to lsupride87
quote:So you remember this specific term and a single class from when you were 5 huh?
Just knew that wasnt a nice thing to say. It has been in the dictionary since around 1900 that it was derogatory.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:33 pm to Jbird
quote:No, but ever since I have a memory I have known redskins is a deragotory term. Look guys, it is bullshite they are trying to make them change. But dont weaken your argument by trying to play ignorant to a fact. That is a leftist move
So you remember this specific term and a single class from when you were 5 huh?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:38 pm to lsupride87
quote:
I agree they are not equivalent. I did not mean to make it seem like they were. My only point was that it was once a normal word. but became derogatory. It has been in Webters as that since the late 1800s i beleive
Fair enough.
My problem is that there are some people that either ignore an issue altogetherr (e.g., politicians) or don't have the ability to identify an important issue until it's popular. When it gets popular then, they act like it's been their stance for years, and then vilify anybody who is now confused or put-off by this new "outrage." I just have trouble respecting the the moral stance of individuals who are at the will of the populists' stance. If they think something is offensive, then they should stand up for it; don't jump on the bandwagon and tout their moral superiority after the fact.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:40 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:Oh i agree with you 100%.
My problem is that there are some people that either ignore an issue altogether until it's popular (e.g., politicians) or don't have the ability to identify an important issue until it's popular. When it gets popular then, they act like it's been their stance for years, and the vilify anybody who is now confused or put-off by this new "outrage." I just have trouble respecting the the moral stance of individuals who are at the will of the populists' stance. If they think something is offensive, then they should stand up for it; don't jump on the bandwagon and tout their moral superiority after the fact.
My only point in this thread is that Redskins is a derogatory term. We dont have to hide from that while making our point, Like I said that is a leftist move
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:43 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Oh i agree with you 100%. My only point in this thread is that Redskins is a derogatory term. We dont have to hide from that while making our point, Like I said that is a leftist move
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:46 pm to lsupride87
The name was originally created in Boston when the team was located there. It was a play to market the team with the Red Sox and became the Red Skins.
They eventually merged the name and moved to Washington DC where no one had any issues until the country moved into the PC era where liberals, men who are betas and bored housewives became championing causes.
They eventually merged the name and moved to Washington DC where no one had any issues until the country moved into the PC era where liberals, men who are betas and bored housewives became championing causes.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:50 pm to WalkingTurtles
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:55 am to Rex
quote:
So, because SOME native Americans are not offended that makes it OK?
sure was lots of Redskins fans in AZ yesterday
Posted on 10/13/14 at 5:33 am to StraightCashHomey21
While some Native Americans might not like the term Redskins, there are evidently many who do.
The NCAA tried being PC about the same issue. The Seminoles of Florida AND Oklahoma said they both liked FSU's name.
One of the Chiefs of the Ute people was a Utah football season ticket holder.
Illinois had to get rid of Chief Illiniwek...despite there being no Illini left. The closest living ancestors of the Illini have flip-flopped with their stance on the name.
I'm not opposed to changing names if they are universally considered offensive, but don't force it if the minority in question is divided on the issue.
The NCAA tried being PC about the same issue. The Seminoles of Florida AND Oklahoma said they both liked FSU's name.
One of the Chiefs of the Ute people was a Utah football season ticket holder.
Illinois had to get rid of Chief Illiniwek...despite there being no Illini left. The closest living ancestors of the Illini have flip-flopped with their stance on the name.
I'm not opposed to changing names if they are universally considered offensive, but don't force it if the minority in question is divided on the issue.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 7:42 am to Scruffy
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Well, seems like the ENTIRE Navajo Nation is alright with it.
Actually Ben Shelly lost the primary election, so he won't be reelected and will be out of office by January. So, the OP should read "Lame Duck President of Navajo Nation w/ Dan Snyder"
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 7:45 am
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:40 am to Robin Masters
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"Redskin" is a stereotype and we as a society should reject stereotypes because they are intellectually lazy.
quote:
Oklahoma is a state located in the South Central United States. The state's name is derived from the Choctaw words okla and humma, meaning "red people".[12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 8:41 am
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:55 am to UncleFestersLegs
quote:
Oklahoma is a state located in the South Central United States. The state's name is derived from the Choctaw words okla and humma, meaning "red people".[12]
And?
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
I am a direct descendent of Pochohantas as well as Chief Motosbuba and several other unnamed Cherokees.
I am not offended by the name Redskins.
In fact about the only thing that offends me is the constant sniveling of the PC police whose only joy in life seems to be looking for things to be offended about.
I am not offended by the name Redskins.
In fact about the only thing that offends me is the constant sniveling of the PC police whose only joy in life seems to be looking for things to be offended about.
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 8:58 am
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:31 am to ChineseBandit58
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I am a direct descendent of Pochohantas as well as Chief Motosbuba and several other unnamed Cherokees.
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