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re: President of Navajo Nation w/ Dan Snyder
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I'll ask here again to see if I can get a response? Is the term redskin racist or derogatory?
The reason I ask is I thought it was deemed racist, but the Indian leaders on that John Stewart segment claimed it was offensive because a red skin was a scalp of an Indian that was taken as a trophy. So which is it?
The reason I ask is I thought it was deemed racist, but the Indian leaders on that John Stewart segment claimed it was offensive because a red skin was a scalp of an Indian that was taken as a trophy. So which is it?
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:55 pm to Lsut81
quote:
it was offensive because a red skin was a scalp of an Indian that was taken as a trophy
It was also a scalp of a white man that was taken as a trophy. We're all the same underneath the skin.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:58 pm to RollTide1987
He's a cornball Navajo.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:01 pm to TigerLicks
In all fairness, I would be completely cool with the name if I had those seats 
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:04 pm to Lsut81
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t the Indian leaders on that John Stewart segment claimed it was offensive because a red skin was a scalp of an Indian that was taken as a trophy.
Complete bullshite, come on man, Jon Stewart?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:10 pm to Lsut81
quote:
s the term redskin racist or derogatory?
It's neither. And arguing about the level of offensiveness which results from the term is missing the point.
"Redskin" is a stereotype and we as a society should reject stereotypes because they are intellectually lazy. They also can create cultural boundaries which make an accurate understanding of a culture impossible or, at minimum, much more difficult. "Redskins" should offend our intellect not our feelings.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:32 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Complete bullshite, come on man, Jon Stewart?
Just asking the question, trying to figure out what the talking points are.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:44 pm to Rex
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So, because SOME native Americans are not offended that makes it OK?
While many are, I'm not offended that you are a raging pussy and you keep going, so it must be ok.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:48 pm to Rex
quote:
So, because SOME native Americans are not offended that makes it OK?
And because some white, pussy, ignorant a-hole liberals think that all Indians should be offended that makes it racist?
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:49 pm to Lsut81
quote:yes, it is derogatory. It has a history the same as the n word. Started off as just a way to describe a certain group of people, then somewhere alond the way it transformed into a demeaning and derogatory term. It is absolute horseshite if the govt or anyone else forces them tochange the name, but to act like Redskins isnt considered derogatory is lying to help their opinion.
I'll ask here again to see if I can get a response? Is the term redskin racist or derogatory?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:50 pm to MMauler
quote:it is a derogatory term. I agree they shouldn't change or be forced to change the name though.
And because some white, pussy, ignorant assholes think that all Indians should be offended that makes it racist?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:53 pm to Rex
I am part native indian on my mom's side. The name of the Washington Redskins is a honor to a proud tough people. I don't know anyone who is offended. This was created by white liberals who are trying to tear the country apart and reshape it in their own way.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:54 pm to Lsut81
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Just asking the question, trying to figure out what the talking points are.
I'm still trying to figure where most of these individuals that are "extremely" offended were in the past. I know there have been some individuals that have been fighting the name for years; I respect those people that maintain a moral stance, regardless of the popularity of it. I have more trouble respecting people who fight for a cause only after it becomes the "popular" thing to do, especially when they had the opportunity to fight for it when it was less popular. If they believe something is morally and objectively wrong, then stand up for it; don't wait until it's become the "thing" to do. It makes me second guess their moral fortitude or worse yet, makes me think their morals are determined by the populists' stance.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:07 pm to lsupride87
Let's ask Fauxchahontas. I'm sure she thinks that she's an expert on the issue.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:07 pm to lsupride87
quote:
yes, it is derogatory. It has a history the same as the n word. Started off as just a way to describe a certain group of people, then somewhere alond the way it transformed into a demeaning and derogatory term. It is absolute horse shite if the govt or anyone else forces them tochange the name, but to act like Redskins isnt considered derogatory is lying to help their opinion.
I see why it is derogatory, but it also seems like it is a false equivalence to the N-word. First of all, I am, and everybody else, will write "N-Word" instead of writing it out. We have known for decades, how hateful the word is. That being said, I used to sit down on Superbowl Sunday and watch Steve Sabol present the highlights of past Superbowls which included many played by the Washington Redskins. Not once did anybody tell me how derogatory the term was, yet I knew how derogatory the N-word was as young child. If there is a true equivalence that would have been obvious to many, then those that failed to speak for years and years, when it was obvious to them, seem to lack the moral fortitude to criticize anybody today. Again, those that stood up when it wasn't popular have my utmost respect.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:11 pm to Rex
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So, because SOME native Americans are not offended that makes it OK?
No, because the name Redskins didn't cause any controversy until recently with the invention of political correctness and the country went full retard.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:15 pm to TigerLicks
Solid troll by Snyder. This guy knows he's being used right?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:17 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:As a 5 year old I knew it wasnt wise to call the Native ameircan that came speak to us a Redskin. Maybe i was just really smart
I see why it is derogatory, but it also seems like it is a false equivalence to the N-word. First of all, I am, and everybody else, will write "N-Word" instead of writing it out. We have known for decades, how hateful the word is. That being said, I used to sit down on Superbowl Sunday and watch Steve Sabol present the highlights of past Superbowls which included many played by the Washington Redskins. Not once did anybody tell me how derogatory the term was, yet I knew how derogatory the N-word was as young child. If there is a true equivalence that would have been obvious to many, then those that failed to speak for years and years, when it was obvious to them, seem to lack the moral fortitude to criticize anybody today. Again, those that stood up when it wasn't popular have my utmost respect.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:20 pm to lsupride87
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As a 5 year old I knew it wasnt wise to call the Native ameircan that came speak to us a Redskin. Maybe i was just really smart
Apparently not
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:24 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:I am dyslexic and am not afraid to say it. If it is your prerogative to make fun of me for that go ahead. it was tough when i was young but assholes like you turned me into who I am today
Apparently not
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