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re: POST-BIRTH ABORTIONS

Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:50 am to
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:50 am to
Not shocked
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:54 am to
Holy frick Pro-Lifers are easy to troll
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:56 am to
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Holy frick Pro-Lifers are easy to troll


you over estimate the intelligence of Pro Baby Murderers
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:57 am to
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f you agree that its all subjective, then how can you say what is appropriate to do or not do based on say the bible?
If we have no standard whatsoever, then what? We're just animals eating each other. Somebody has to say it, and some people have to listen. Right now we have a standard, and I think it's pretty decent. Why is your standard better?
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this is a noble goal, of course the problem is that its the wrong sort of people breeding.
This is deplorable to me
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:59 am to
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Why don't we advocate for post birth abortions for the woman what would want this and give the baby to a family that would love and raise it.
This is a far better solution. Get rid of the individual we know has made bad decisions, and allow the individual who hasn't made bad decisions the opportunity to avoid making them.

Alternatively, why not insist that mothers who want to kill their children must also commit be euthanized? Let's raise the stakes a little and see how frequently women make this choice.

How often should a woman be given this choice? What would stop a depraved woman from having babies regularly and having them killed for enjoyment purposes?
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:01 am to
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I think these campus pro-life people got trolled...hard


Feaking this!!!
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:01 am to
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This is a far better solution. Get rid of the individual we know has made bad decisions, and allow the individual who hasn't made bad decisions the opportunity to avoid making them.
This is idiotic, and is just as bad as an abortion. Murder is wrong.
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Alternatively, why not insist that mothers who want to kill their children must also commit be euthanized? Let's raise the stakes a little and see how frequently women make this choice.
This is also idiotic. I'm sorry. I do try to be civil on important topics, but this is really just too stupid. I can only assume you're being hyperbolic.
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How often should a woman be given this choice? What would stop a depraved woman from having babies regularly and having them killed for enjoyment purposes?
See the above.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:05 am to
Nazis creating mass death camps were likely considered so outrageous that it had to be a troll, at one point in time. Then it wasn't.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:07 am to
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When you understand this, that cultures and morals do not just naturally evolve, it's hard not to be a social conservative these days


So they don't naturally evolve and you think that drives a person to social conservativism? Aren't social conservatives actively resisting the evolution of morality into a morality they don't like?

And in what "country" is cannibalism "totally fine and not immoral"?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:07 am to
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If we have no standard whatsoever, then what?

well this pretty much sums up ethics in the 20th and 21st century.
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Somebody has to say it, and some people have to listen. Right now we have a standard, and I think it's pretty decent.

Right but if you do not believe right/wrong is objective, then really anyone can say anything?
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Why is your standard better?

I really have no standard to tell you the truth, just my opinion, which is what you saying all you have. My opinion is no more valid than your opinion, the only difference is that I recognize this where you might not.

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This is deplorable to me


Nihilism has some really ugly outcomes. its really the only rational end conclusion once you determine your experience is subjective. But its quite frightening to look into the abyss.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89511 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:08 am to
When certain human life is devalued for monstrously vain and superficial reasons, then all human life is devalued.

It was as predictable as the sunrise.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:08 am to
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I don't understand the end-game of encouraging homosexuality


You stopped making sense about 10 threads ago.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51798 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:09 am to
Ask the Romans how well their moral "evolution" turned out.

Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:09 am to
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Nazis creating mass death camps were likely considered so outrageous that it had to be a troll, at one point in time. Then it wasn't.


So you're doubling down on the troll. Good for you.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:11 am to
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Ask the Romans how well their moral "evolution" turned out.
You can say this about, literally, every past civilization. Because every past civilization is, by definition, done.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:12 am to
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When certain human life is devalued for monstrously vain and superficial reasons, then all human life is devalued.


this is the best pro life argument, the problem is that its inconsistently applied by many of those who make it.

its one are where I give the catholic church props, they seem to apply it everywhere. But modern conservatism often has no problem with war, the death penalty, drones killing kids, bombing of citizens by isreal, etc.

while I disagree with this view point, i do not believe all life is precious, I respect the application by the catholic church. They aren't hypocrites (when it comes to this).
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 11:13 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:14 am to
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But modern conservatism often has no problem with war, the death penalty, drones killing kids, bombing of citizens by isreal, etc.


you stupid, son?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:15 am to
You're just saying the same thing over again. There is not objectivity. It must be synthetic. It will be synthetic or we will decay into nihilistic barbarians.

Ok, that part is established.

Now (subjectively) which synthetic moral system do you want? Or do you want none at all?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:17 am to
Several countries in central Africa where feeding on pygmies is not a stigma.

There is no evolution of morality
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:17 am to
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Now (subjectively) which synthetic moral system do you want? Or do you want none at all?



he wants the one that conservatives don't agree with
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