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re: Poll: Would you pay more for American made products if they are better?
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:29 am to bhtigerfan
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:29 am to bhtigerfan
Just an FYI, when Trump approved the Keystone and DAPL via the State Department and the Corps of Engineers permitting respectively he put a provision in the permits that Trans Canada (Keystone Pipeline) and Energy Transfer (DAPL) must use American made steel to build the pipelines. That is rarely an issue. Pipelines built in American almost exclusively use American steel because of two reasons:
1. Cheaper transportation costs.
2. Quality control.
1. Cheaper transportation costs.
2. Quality control.
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:31 am to bhtigerfan
I already do for many items when given the choice.
So, yes
So, yes
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:32 am to bhtigerfan
Yes
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 10:33 am
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:32 am to bhtigerfan
quote:
but are you willing to, or do you pay more for American made products "if" they are clearly a better product than made overseas?
I am. Remember how many people went and bought foreign made cars, Toyota and Honda come to mind, when they started being sold in the U.S.? Reason, they were better products, according to many people, than those being made here in the U.S. at cheaper prices than the imports. Anyone thinking that introducing foreign made cars to America didn't have a big impact on the quality of US cars improving hasn't been around long enough to know the difference.
Now if we're talking plastic spoons and forks made in Mexico, I guess a person would have a point of buying cheap but I don't recall a lot of financial business ventures affecting our economy being predicated on where we buy plastic spoons and forks.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:34 am to bhtigerfan
quote:I already do every time I have a choice.
Would you pay more for American made products if they are better?
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:34 am to BaddestAndvari
quote:This is a big problem.
because of the influx of chinese parts
I purchased a 2013 Toyota Camry from the auction to resell. The two front door locks don't work. $450 in parts to replace them, because the two $6 Chinese made electric motors are defective. (I've actually ordered replacement motors and will install them myself instead of buying new actuators).
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:37 am to Tactical1
quote:Are you gonna be a dumbass your whole life?
But they do cost more and they are not better.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:41 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:Very true.
Remember how many people went and bought foreign made cars, Toyota and Honda come to mind, when they started being sold in the U.S.? Reason, they were better products, according to many people, than those being made here in the U.S. at cheaper prices than the imports. Anyone thinking that introducing foreign made cars to America didn't have a big impact on the quality of US cars improving hasn't been around long enough to know the difference.
Same thing happened in the marine outboard engine market. Mercury and Evinrude were producing terrible products until Yamaha, Honda and Suzuki almost put them out of business and made them step up their game.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:44 am to bhtigerfan
quote:
It used to be that the "Made in USA" automatically meant that it was a superior product. Automobiles not withstanding.
And there you go. I have owned 7 Fords and haven't had any issues. I wouldn't touch a Chrysler made product with a 10-foot pole. I feel about the same with GM, but they are definitely way ahead of Chrysler. All that said, I'd buy a Toyota, Honda, Subaru, or Hyundai before any of the aforementioned.
I did have to buy a can opener for work a couple weeks ago and, since it was company money, I bought the only one at Publix made in the USA. It was $7.99 vs. roughly $3.99 for three other imported brands. Only difference in the USA-made one is that it was definitely heavier, all-metal, with a ridiculous amount of "MADE IN THE USA" on the package (but nothing to really tell me why it was better).
So, it all depends.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:45 am to bhtigerfan
It depends on what we're talking about.. A piece of structural steel or tool? I'll go with the American made everytime. Pharmaceuticals? Well, I'll pass on ones made in India. Fish? I'd rather not have them out of asian waters. Tires? Yeah, give me the American made also.
It honestly seems dependent on situations where purity and quality control are necessary, and how reliable I need it to be. I can't tell you how many "china" sockets I've sheered in two with very little torque.
It honestly seems dependent on situations where purity and quality control are necessary, and how reliable I need it to be. I can't tell you how many "china" sockets I've sheered in two with very little torque.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:48 am to Homesick Tiger
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Anyone thinking that introducing foreign made cars to America didn't have a big impact on the quality of US cars improving hasn't been around long enough to know the difference.
You're absolutely correct in this; however, the American car companies brought this on themselves by intentionally manufacturing inferior products in the 70's and 80's. They wouldn't have had to catch up to the foreign level of quality had they not tried to shite on the American consumer in the first place.
And Chrysler STILL hasn't figured it out after all this time, though they are worlds better than where they used to be.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 11:26 am
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:49 am to bhtigerfan
I buy the highest quality at my price point...and I don't care where it's made.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:51 am to bhtigerfan
quote:
Would you pay more for American made products if they are better?
How much more?
And that's a pretty big "if."
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:56 am to bhtigerfan
The American People have already voted on this very subject.
The results are in, Americans would rather buy cheap foreign products over better made American products - even at the expense of domestic job losses.
Americans have been voting on this with their dollars at least since the 90s.
The results are in, Americans would rather buy cheap foreign products over better made American products - even at the expense of domestic job losses.
Americans have been voting on this with their dollars at least since the 90s.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:57 am to bhtigerfan
Sure, just like I'd buy Italian shoes or French apparel or German automobiles if they are better. Premium isn't nationality-dependent; it's company-dependent.
American companies tend to do well in IP-heavy industries, and that's where you see premiums for American products.
American companies tend to do well in IP-heavy industries, and that's where you see premiums for American products.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:58 am to S1C EM
quote:
I did have to buy a can opener for work a couple weeks ago and, since it was company money, I bought the only one at Publix made in the USA. It was $7.99 vs. roughly $3.99 for three other imported brands.
I cook every day so I had to check out my favorite can opener.
It's a Swing-Away. It cost 6 bucks and it's made in the USA!
Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:04 am to bhtigerfan
I'd pay more for products if it meant more people were working. I'd rather pay more for milk so somebody can work than have more stolen from me in taxes so someone can sit.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:04 am to S1C EM
quote:The American auto companies have greatly improved their products. I currently drive a `14 Ford F-150 and couldn't be happier, although I have 2 small electrical glitches that will be fixed under warranty. A window motor that acts up, and the rear defroster doesn't work. I guarantee both are foreign made electrical parts.
And there you go. I have owned 7 Fords and haven't had any issues. I wouldn't touch a Chrysler made product with a 10-foot pole. I feel about the same with GM, but they are definitely way ahead of Chrysler. All that said, I'd buy a Toyota, Honda, Subaru, or Hyundai before any of the aforementioned.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 11:05 am
Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:04 am to bhtigerfan
I'll always pay more for a quality product. Tend to save money in the long run by not having to replace or replace as often.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:09 am to bhtigerfan
I've paid premiums for US over imports. I'm not nuts about it, but I do go out of my way to buy US made products. Obviously there are financial limits and many times, of course, no US made product is available.
I read labels. I especially try to buy only domestic food products as US regulations tend to keep them safer than the imports.
I've owned cars for over 50 years. Never any brand other than Ford, GM or Chrysler. The last 15 years, nothing but Fords. Yes, I realize much of the content of US brand autos is foreign sourced and that many Toyotas, etc. are at least assembled in the USA.
I read labels. I especially try to buy only domestic food products as US regulations tend to keep them safer than the imports.
I've owned cars for over 50 years. Never any brand other than Ford, GM or Chrysler. The last 15 years, nothing but Fords. Yes, I realize much of the content of US brand autos is foreign sourced and that many Toyotas, etc. are at least assembled in the USA.
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