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re: Politics and Faith
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:55 pm to 93and99
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:55 pm to 93and99
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If you condone abortion you aren't a Christian.
I would disagree
Not that I think most abortion proponents are Christians - I don't. But some could be and I suspect there are some who are.
My sin is no worse or better than theirs. I do think it's reasonable to question whether someone wrapping their left-wing politics in faith is pursuing the former or the latter. And relatedly, whether they're faking the latter to pursue the former.
I think it's reasonable to question that on the right, too, but one position tends to be more openly hostile to faith than the other. Left-leaning Christian churches are often Gospel-free zones. While right leaning churches may let politics dominate to a problematic extent, I'm not aware of any that are completely devoid of Gospel. There are left-wing churches where you could go years without hearing the Gospel, and I just don't think that happens at FBC Dallas, for example.
The reality is that left-leaning churches are a vehicle for directionless political advocates. You get a salary, you get to engage in advocacy, you get more respect than the average left wing organizer and you can wrap up your radical views in the more acceptable framework of the church.
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:36 pm to nematocyte
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nematocyte
You are an idiot and a fake Christian.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:37 pm to Pettifogger
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I would disagree
Of course you would.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:37 pm to GAAtty70
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Do you believe that God
No.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:43 pm to 93and99
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If you have read the bible. do you really think god supports abortion?
Have you read it?
Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:44 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Not surprised your worthless arse loves abortion. 
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:07 pm to AnyonebutSteelers
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God ordains all things
If God were to create Beings with no choice but to praise and worship God...what would that say re God's essential character?
If as Parents, we give our children everything, or force them to act according to our dictates and beliefs, as opposed to acquiring things on their own...then we - selfishly - remove their ability to enjoy accomplishment that THEY EARNED. It is the Children's accomplishment, that a loving Parent should celebrate.
Krauthammer was right..."if you lose your politics, it ALL goes bad from there". Politics rules Religion; Religion, being the Institution which - ideally - serves as the 'vessel' for Spiritual Truth.
Humanity (Politics) may choose to embrace a 'Religion' which denies and discards Truth...but not for long. Because Truth is the very essence of both the Worldly (Empirical) and Spiritual Universe. Such a Human Culture...will perish, in short order.
Jesus is supposedly coming back a second time - "with a sword" - to establish a righteous World Paradigm. One might call that 'Political'...maybe not. It's all Subjective in the big picture. The Quantum Physicists figured that out a long time ago; and it blew their minds.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:14 pm to 93and99
Asking you if you have read the Bible means I love abortion in your mind.
Imagine that.
Imagine that.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:18 pm to RCDfan1950
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If God were to create Beings with no choice but to praise and worship God...what would that say re God's essential character?
It would say much better things than a God who supposedly gives his creation freewill, yet punishes them for eternity if they're born into the "wrong" culture and receive the "wrong" theology.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:22 pm to 93and99
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You are an idiot and a fake Christian.
Is this a tacit way of you admitting you don't know what logical fallacy you committed? I'll give you a hint, I've never seen a single intelligent person make this mistake.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:23 pm to nematocyte
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:32 pm to 93and99
quote:Just because that is your only platform doesn't mean it is the main platform of the Democrat Party.
Abortion is the main platform of the Democrat Party.
You are delusional.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:53 pm to GAAtty70
quote:We don't have a free will. We have freedom of choice (volition), but not freedom of will. Our wills are tainted by sin like the rest of us.
So no free will.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:50 am to hawkeye007
quote:He could. He could have stopped His only begotten son from being tortured to death on the cross, too, but He didn't because there was a bigger purpose for it. We don't always know why God does what He does but we know it's for a good reason. God's glory is a good reason, by the way.
so if this is true then God could stop children from being abused and raped and trafficed.
What this always boils down to is a lack of understanding or belief in the perfect holiness of God and the sinfulness and guilt of man (of all ages). If God is God and we are all sinners who break His law, then He is perfectly just to take from this world anyone He chooses at any time in any way He sees fit.
quote:I understand the thought makes you upset but I would say that you being upset about it is evidence that you know God exists and His word is true. We are made in God's image with inherent value and we recognize the crime of harming those image-bearers. This emotional discomfort makes perfect sense in terms of moral rightness if God exists, we are truly made in His image with value and dignity, and there is an objective moral law at play here. It doesn't make so much sense if God doesn't exist, if we are evolved bacteria in a purposeless world, and what is morally right is what each person believes.
once again i will say it if this is the god you believe in he is an a-hole.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 5:30 pm to GAAtty70
quote:It doesn't. Job says the breath of God gave him life, but that's more of a point of God's work in creation and life itself than anything else.
Bible also says life begins at first breath.
The question boils down to whether or not the human being in the womb of its mother has value and should be protected. The Bible mentions multiple times that we are known and called with a purpose from before we were born.
Was Jesus any less the son of God in the womb of Mary with value and purpose ordained by God? What about John the Baptist? What about Samson, whose mother was told not to drink wine or eat anything unclean while she was pregnant so that he could maintain his life as a Nazirite?
It's clear the Bible teaches that there is value to the unborn. Being barren was considered a curse to the Jews and being pregnant was something to be celebrated as a blessing from God. They didn't consider their unborn children as nothing of consequence.
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