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re: Open border lovin' Dems on this board............

Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:36 am to
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:36 am to
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did any poster actually support "open" borders? thread is nonsense. straw man thread.


So, this response is:

No one supports open borders, this is a made up problem.




That’s wholesale dishonesty there. Who’s next? I’m hoping for at least one legitimate attempt at arguing for the current border situation.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:37 am to
tarzana and his girlfiend TGFN7 will be here soon to openly take in illegals into their home

or maybe not
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:41 am to
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Now do abortion, and tell me how many unwanted babies you adopted.


Okay, lol, this response is a bizarre attempt to entirely deflect the subject of the thread from borders to abortion in some kind of really stretched gotcha move.

Wow. Surely there are better.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:42 am to
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did any poster actually support "open" borders?



you fricktards voted biden which made you support all of the below:

over taxation and regulation hurting jobs and people
no gun rights (they want it all banned and we know it)
loss of jobs due to idiotic policies
stupid faux climate science
stupid energy policies
open borders
no FAIR trade
abortion
mentally ill trans
groomers
pedos
defund the police
letting criminals roam the streets
etc
etc
etc


Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:45 am to
TG&frickinY1957..always good for a Leftist laugh..keep the 10 cent head opinions flowing.

LetoLunacy..never change.
Posted by yakster
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:46 am to
That is not an open conversation you’re having right now. It’s a “it don’t affect me” statement. But eventually it’s gonna affect you.
Posted by LSUconvert
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:52 am to
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Open border lovin'


None of our borders are open.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:55 am to
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Just wait till there's no lettuce or fruit in the stores. Their old lady's will be screeching. Oh wait. I forgot what board this is. They will never have an old lady. Or any woman for that matter.


Alright, finally, at least a half hearted attempt at arguing for the current border situation. This response:

1. Without open borders, we won’t have food (especially lettuce and fruit) in the stores

2. Posters here have weak, complaining old women as wives; no wait, posters here don’t like old women; no wait, posters here don’t have women, seemingly out of choice because they hate women.


This isn’t a good argument but at least it’s a legitimate attempt at justifying 200K known illegal border crossings a month that are expected to rise to 350K known illegal border crossings a month, or nearly 4M illegal border crossings a year, according to none other than The New York Times.

We’ve never had a border situation like the current one and we’ve always had food in stores, markets, etc. Moreover, we have guest worker permits which provide a system more than capable of servicing our large scale agricultural production.

I’ll end with a question for any leftists reading:

Is it still your intention to argue that we don’t have open borders when there are 4M known (doesn’t even include non encounters) illegal border crossings a year?
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:00 am to
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None of our borders are open.


This response seems to be the most go to response for leftists. It’s already been used more than once by them in this thread.

This is a dishonest response that is not grounded in any facts of the current situation, for reasons that have been covered in this thread.

I’ll ask again: is it a legitimate response to say that we have secure borders when there are 2.5M to 4M known illegal border crossings a year?

Of course not. To do so is nothing more than a lie and you cannot have a honest, real, legitimate discussion when one side consistently engages in bad faith.
Posted by LSUconvert
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:01 am to
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I’ll ask again: is it a legitimate response to say that we have secure borders when there are 2.5M to 4M known illegal border crossings a year?


If our borders were open they would not be illegal.

I'm glad I could help.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:02 am to
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If our borders were open they would not be illegal.


Open borders means lack of security at the border to halt or stop illegal immigration. But, you know that. You can't argue for your support of the Biden family and their destruction of the southern border, so instead you try semantics and you fail there too.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:04 am to
This thread is fantastic.

Rarely do we have leftists openly and candidly argue for their policies.

This thread is a rare illustration of what people argue for specifically to border security and why they support particular policies relative to border security (or insecurity, in reality).

It’s all laid out for you here, everyone, in plain sight.

I encourage everyone to read through the thread.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:05 am to
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Open borders means lack of security at the border to halt or stop illegal immigration.


That is not what it means. Please learn the terms you want to use, or use different ones.

Our borders are not open.

If you claim they are open you are either lying or ignorant. Nothing wrong with being ignorant in principle, but it becomes your fault when you don't work to educate yourself.
Posted by yimbo
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:07 am to
Kind of like republicans and adopting kids
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:10 am to
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If our borders were open they would not be illegal. I'm glad I could help.


Okay, this response is:

Now arguing semantics over the term “open” and basically saying because we have 2.5M to 4M known illegal border crossings a year, the border is not open.


I don’t think I need to even go further in discussing how this argument is ridiculous. I think it speaks for itself to anyone that reads it.




Is there anything else a leftist can offer up in an argument for the current border situation and why it’s good policy?

Is this it?
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:12 am to
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Now arguing semantics over the term “open” and basically saying because we have 2.5M to 4M known illegal border crossings a year, the border is not open.


The idea that you think our borders are open but acknowledge them as illegal immigrants is hilarious.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:13 am to
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Our borders are not open. If you claim they are open you are either lying or ignorant. Nothing wrong with being ignorant in principle, but it becomes your fault when you don't work to educate yourself.


This has already been covered, it’s just doubling down on ignoring facts with the additions of calling people ignorant and saying it’s their fault.

Moving on, see above and really the entire thread because, again, “the borders are secure” is an oft go to response by leftists.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:15 am to
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Kind of like republicans and adopting kids


This, some bizarre attempt at changing the whole subject from border security to abortion and adoption, was surprisingly utilized once before in this thread so moving on.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:18 am to
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The idea that you think our borders are open but acknowledge them as illegal immigrants is hilarious.


If you have millions of illegals a year released into a country, along with an unknown number of illegals, then it is factually and logically incompatible to argue that we have closed borders.

This is self evident on it’s face.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:19 am to
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This has already been covered,


So you understand now that our borders are not open? Or are you still somehow confused, despite having it laid out in basic terms for you?
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