re: Once AGAIN, the coward Muslim scum was KNOWN about before hand

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And there are probably thousands of people who are on some list just the same.

There is no way to follow all of these people around 24/7.

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So get any suspicious one out and quit following them with domestic resources. Don't let anyone suspicious in. PROFILING is the best tactic low level agents have in working against this evil.

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You can't just throw your own citizens out of their own country because they may hold certain (terrible) opinions.

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So as a starter we can toughen up citizenship standards to ensure that naturalized citizens are DEMONSTRABLY completely assimilated into the traditional American culture. Naturalized citizenship should be conditioned on continued DEMONSTRABLE assimilation into traditional American culture for at least 20 years. That would include how they raise their children.

We should NOT allow foreigners to become and remain 'citizens' when all they want to do is come to America to fundamentally change its national culture - especially when that change is toward barbarian medieval violent culture. Screw that - we have enough natural born nutcases.

We should only allow naturalized citizens who are of unquestioned character and productivity, totally aligned with American culture, and who arrive at our shores totally independent of government assistance. We grow enough worthless, free-loading, malcontents without having to import any of that shite.

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And nothing was done. When will this tired act play out? How many more have to die before common damn sense takes over.

When you KNOW these bastards are in communication with radical people and groups, arrest their fricking arse and throw away the key.

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So, are you saying that you are a proponent of suspending civil liberties granted in our constitution? Primarily, the right to free speech?

Or maybe you are a proponent of having anyone that talks to someone else that disagrees with your political, religious, or personal views being placed under constant surveillance to a degree that their civil liberties are suspended, regardless if they have actually committed any crime?

Is that what you are saying? Because I reject wholeheartedly the notion that any of those ideas, thoughts, or principles belong in my America.

Do I like that the people that want to do harm to us are able to hide behind our freedoms that are the very threads of social frabic that they aim to destroy? No, not at all. But I will never agree to give 'those in power' the right to suspend those freedoms with anyone they deem 'necessary', regardless if any crime has been committed.

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Following the Constitution has nothing to do with political correctness.

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It has everything to do with political correctness when the current fad of 'politically correct' thinking of liberal 'think-tanks' were the drivers for strange decisions of what the constitution really means.

We have a constitutionally provided amendment process to change what the constitution says and means in order to keep up with real changing norms of society. The latest butt-hurt 'feelings' about what it says should never be a reason to change its meaning.

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quote: You can't just throw your own citizens out of their own country because they may hold certain (terrible) opinions. So as a starter we can toughen up citizenship standards to ensure that naturalized citizens are DEMONSTRABLY completely assimilated into the traditional American culture. Naturalized citizenship should be conditioned on continued DEMONSTRABLE assimilation into traditional American culture for at least 20 years. That would include how they raise their children. We should NOT allow foreigners to become and remain 'citizens' when all they want to do is come to America to fundamentally change its national culture - especially when that change is toward barbarian medieval violent culture. Screw that - we have enough natural born nutcases. We should only allow naturalized citizens who are of unquestioned character and productivity, totally aligned with American culture, and who arrive at our shores totally independent of government assistance. We grow enough worthless, free-loading, malcontents without having to import any of that shite.

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What the frick is "traditional American culture "? Because, as I recall in "traditional American history " we have had the annihilation of Native Americans... slavery, "separate but equal", literally witch trials, and a whole host of society blemishes.

Who gets to decide the "yeah, you're traditionally American enough. You're in the club."? You guys are so quick to denounce everyone that doesn't think or look like you as "bad people" that you're missing the important fact that the actions you are suggesting are the VERY THINGS that people like Soros want to accomplish-- weaken the constitution. Once our society agrees to a weakened constitution is the very moment the left will change it to fit their agenda.

So wait.....


You want to expel people from the country who talk to "radical" people? Legit.


Question: Who defines "radical"? Me? You?

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Question: Who defines "radical"? Me? You

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Common damn sense dude. Surely you realize that someone that openly advocates blowing up kids is "radical," no?

I'm not sure people wanting to kill innocent people has much to do with political winds.


Good vs Evil

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So, are you saying that you are a proponent of suspending civil liberties granted in our constitution? Primarily, the right to free speech?

Or maybe you are a proponent of having anyone that talks to someone else that disagrees with your political, religious, or personal views being placed under constant surveillance to a degree that their civil liberties are suspended, regardless if they have actually committed any crime?

Is that what you are saying? Because I reject wholeheartedly the notion that any of those ideas, thoughts, or principles belong in my America.

Do I like that the people that want to do harm to us are able to hide behind our freedoms that are the very threads of social frabic that they aim to destroy? No, not at all. But I will never agree to give 'those in power' the right to suspend those freedoms with anyone they deem 'necessary', regardless if any crime has been committed.

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Well that is a very good exposition in theory that should make you feel very good about yourself. Congratulations.

Practically, that is all just gobbledy-asian. It is the same as saying you could be tied up and forced to watch your wife and children tortured, raped, and dismembered in front of you, yet be totally satisfied with the murderer being set free because of some technical screw-up by a rookie cop = because that is 'what the constitution says.'

I would say that individuals or groups who are working to destroy the very civilization that give you the constitutional protections we all enjoy fall outside the realm of a 'crime.' It is at best sedition and at worst open warfare against our very way of life. Terrorism in and of itself should never be treated as merely a crime in the same way we treat bank robberies or even murder.

Protecting our nation from this sort of scourge should take the same course as we do for pandemic disease. Isolate and hold anyone who fits a certain PROFILE - until they are proven to be free of the 'disease' we are trying to prevent importing. Those being detained, preventing entry or freedom of travel, are being denied their constitutional rights because they have not yet been PROVEN to have the disease. Yet that remains the norm for protecting the larger population from an existential threat.